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01-22-2021, 07:37 AM

#191

FangsF15

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Originally Posted by GucciBoy

April-June. The AE he describes will definitely be happening. Like he said, 800 pilots just to stay the same size as this summer which will be woefully small.

BS also put out a video today on skyhub, and has a little more granularity. He says a “much larger AE” in May or Jun, with Captain and WB positions, to start to staff for summer ‘22.

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Originally Posted by Flying Monkey

I noticed in the email from BS he said we do because of E period utilization. 😳

True, but that’s only for Affected Pilots per LOA 20-04. Training them in this AE will allow them to catch up a little for this summer as a result of having the E periods not otherwise available to them. I would fully expect to be doing a LOT of E periods if you are an affected pilot. As in, almost exclusively.

I read all that as a tacit acknowledgment they know they are behind the curve big time.

01-22-2021, 07:46 AM

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D B Cooper

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Originally Posted by Flying Monkey

I noticed in the email from BS he said we do because of E period utilization. 😳

Saw that as well. However, looking at the ER sim schedule we have a lot of empty sim time. Haven't checked the other fleets, but it seems the limiting factor is instructors.

01-22-2021, 07:50 AM

#193

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Originally Posted by cadetcolin

This summer is going to be redline again..

It's going to be beyond redline. I have my popcorn and slips ready.

Also have my statement ready when inevitably other employee groups ask me about pilot staffing

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01-22-2021, 08:07 AM

#194

DETSports

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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux

"I so good, I can fly this thing in my sleep!" was never meant to be taken literally.

Man, at my last regional I had IPTs (200 series equivalent) from 2-6 AM it was brutal!

01-22-2021, 08:19 AM

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Buck Rogers

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Man...if I would have realized just how tough it is to work/train/fly for an international carrier, I would have gone into teaching.......9-4, not only every weekend off but holidays and summer’s to boot.

Eff that short term pain for long term gain. I’ll never say that to my kids.

01-22-2021, 08:23 AM

#196

DETSports

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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers

Haha my Dad was a teacher, he told me not to become a teacher!

01-22-2021, 08:32 AM

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Buck Rogers

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Originally Posted by DETSports

Haha my Dad was a teacher, he told me not to become a teacher!

Ditto. But then again, he thought it was obscene how much money I made and how little I worked. I guess that’s what they call perspective

01-22-2021, 08:37 AM

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If you are planning on bypassing be aware that on future bids all pilots who have come back will be processed via AE before affected pilots are proffered positions. So a pilot who is junior to you but did not bypass will get first choice of available spots and you could be stuck as NYC220B.

01-22-2021, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bugman61

...and you could be stuck as NYC220B.

That could easily be the highest paying B (even many A) slot in the system.

01-22-2021, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux

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Based on the AE, I'm guessing there will be some ample opportunity for FO's across most fleets/bases to greenslip to their hearts content.

I saw it the opposite. 400 FOs coming back now and maybe another 800 later but no new Capts. Seems like the green slips are going to be skewed to the Capt side if anything.