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Gunfighter 01-13-2021 10:32 AM

How do we unwind this mess? We have pilots who haven't gone to training because of limited capacity and we are about to create more training events. For pilots with multiple awards, it seems that converting them without training for the middle awards, while training them on the final award makes the most sense.

Drum 01-13-2021 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by velosnow (Post 3181006)
Hope we get some back soon, although I'm still months away on training for my displacement from last May's displacement. Doubtful we can get very many ready anytime soon. Have a feeling it's going to be green sleep mania this summer.

I would agree with you GS hypothesis.

Not your "sleep" though :D

Hate autocorrect as well.

Buckeyes 01-13-2021 10:40 AM

Delta does like to use odd terminology

Delta

Delta -AE : Advanced Entitlement =

*position notice

delta - A : B

*CA FO

Delta - Rotation

*trip

Delta - Drop

*available AC in in Indoc


Delta vacation : primary secondary tertiary quaternary, quinary, senary, septenary

*week 1 2 3 4 5 6 7

there are more before my time etc and

bow wave

tennisguru 01-13-2021 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Buckeyes (Post 3181031)
Delta does like to use odd terminology

Delta

Delta -AE : Advanced Entitlement =

*position notice

delta - A : B

*CA FO

Delta - Rotation

*trip

Delta - Drop

*available AC in in Indoc


Delta vacation : primary secondary tertiary quaternary, quinary, senary, septenary

*week 1 2 3 4 5 6 7

there are more before my time etc and

bow wave

Green/White/Yellow Slip for the colors they physically used to be...

velosnow 01-13-2021 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 3181028)
How do we unwind this mess? We have pilots who haven't gone to training because of limited capacity and we are about to create more training events. For pilots with multiple awards, it seems that converting them without training for the middle awards, while training them on the final award makes the most sense.

Good question, there has to be more flexible options out there for the company, FAA & ALPA to pursue. Too many stories of training on something when you're about to displaced from, going to CQ the week before starting on a new bird, etc.

velosnow 01-13-2021 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by Drum (Post 3181030)
I would agree with you GS hypothesis.

Not your "sleep" though :D

Hate autocorrect as well.

Oops! There shall be plenty of slipping and no sleeping this summer for everyone :D

Trip7 01-13-2021 02:05 PM

The training department has already been at max capacity for several months now on multiple fleets. A significant amount of resources was spent on folks that have reinstatement rights, particularly those displaced off the non closed ER bases. Either a bigger picture we are missing or an incredible waste of resources.

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Big E 757 01-13-2021 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3181091)
The training department has already been at max capacity for several months now on multiple fleets. A significant amount of resources was spent on folks that have reinstatement rights, particularly those displaced off the non closed ER bases. Either a bigger picture we are missing or an incredible waste of resources.

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Im going to go with...an incredible waste of resources for $800, Alex.

tunes 01-14-2021 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 3180779)
We're not handling the current training load, presumably because we are already at max training. What are the current NQAT numbers? The only way the company can handle movement is with cancelled awards and/or pilots returning to previous seats. Some of those previous Base/Equipment/Seat options don't exist. I predict we will be working our way out of a self-imposed training disaster for another 12-18 months. Upcoming AEs will get massaged beyond belief to award short courses and normal requals while avoiding IQ.

Please bring on the AEs though.

i can assure you, we are nowhere close to our max training load. Plenty of sim time open every day.


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3181091)
The training department has already been at max capacity for several months now on multiple fleets. A significant amount of resources was spent on folks that have reinstatement rights, particularly those displaced off the non closed ER bases. Either a bigger picture we are missing or an incredible waste of resources.

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on the ER, we have sim time outside of E/F periods available every day

D B Cooper 01-14-2021 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by tunes (Post 3181451)
i can assure you, we are nowhere close to our max training load. Plenty of sim time open every day.


on the ER, we have sim time outside of E/F periods available every day

What about instructors? I've emailed the training planners and I get blank looks, virtually of course.


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