717 training
02-07-2021, 01:02 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
It depends on who the instructor is. The OFFICAL policy is you can't use the LOD, but there are a lot of instructors who say they don't care. It kind of makes it hard to really prepare since you don't know the instructor's opinion until the day of the test.
Honestly who cares though? We have 4 hours to answer 150 questions! The Volume 2 is laid out so nicely that you really don't need bookmarks. On my last eSV, the instructor allowed us to use the LOD, but the few questions I wanted to look up were easier to find in Volume 2. The LOD is a 100ish page document with no table of contents whereas the Volume 2 has a great table of contents.
The eSV is not hard. 70% of the stuff in the LOD is either common sense or stuff you would want to know anyway. Another 30% is stuff that is easy to look up. For the most part, the only time people get stuff wrong is because they didn't read the question correctly or the question was poorly worded.
Honestly who cares though? We have 4 hours to answer 150 questions! The Volume 2 is laid out so nicely that you really don't need bookmarks. On my last eSV, the instructor allowed us to use the LOD, but the few questions I wanted to look up were easier to find in Volume 2. The LOD is a 100ish page document with no table of contents whereas the Volume 2 has a great table of contents.
The eSV is not hard. 70% of the stuff in the LOD is either common sense or stuff you would want to know anyway. Another 30% is stuff that is easy to look up. For the most part, the only time people get stuff wrong is because they didn't read the question correctly or the question was poorly worded.
This...
I didn’t know so many nuclear reactor officers worked at the big D.
02-09-2021, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BNUT
I haven’t been through an IQ program since the 88 4 years ago but that was closed book...so all ESVs now allow the use of pubs?
02-09-2021, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Yes. You're allowed to use any document in Aerodocs, including the LOD
02-10-2021, 05:23 AM
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Are you guys talking about the systems test? I had to complete mine before I even showed up the first day of class. No one told me what I could use as a reference or not use..It was really a joke, and just checking the box saying yes this pilot has now been trained on systems.
02-10-2021, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 3 green
Are you guys talking about the systems test? I had to complete mine before I even showed up the first day of class. No one told me what I could use as a reference or not use..It was really a joke, and just checking the box saying yes this pilot has now been trained on systems.
02-10-2021, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RightSide
Can anyone elaborate on how the 717 training program is? I’m an affected pilot coming to the 717 from the bus. Any guys have tips for training or things you wish you would have known that might be helpful?
I’m happy to be coming back, thanks all!
I’m happy to be coming back, thanks all!
02-10-2021, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Roper92
Welcome back! I went through the 717 full course in the fall and had a great experience. Every instructor & APD I worked with was top notch. Just take it one lesson at a time. Don’t try to get way ahead. You’ve been through a DL initial, you know how it works. Glad to see people coming back!
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