MOU #21-01 – COVID-19 Vaccination
03-20-2021, 10:02 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
I had minor muscle aches which I mitigated with 2 aspirin. I lost my sense of smell/taste for 4 days (turned out to be a good thing as the wife had the same strain and we cleaned out all the bad wine). No fever. No cough. A sand burr is worse. The vaccine is experimental so I'll remain in the control group. I disagree that the vaccine is lower risk. If it is, explain the corporate indemnifications.
03-20-2021, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Ok, you get put on NFLY for 3 days. Just got my first shot yesterday before reading the MOU. Friday and Saturday I’m on reserve and Sunday is an off day. Guessing no soup for me.....at least for the first shot?
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03-20-2021, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
So what is worse, the virus and disease or the vaccine and the potential (undocumented) side effects? You are going to get one or the other.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfdZTZQvuCo
03-20-2021, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
looks that way. But you get days off without any commitment to the company, so is that soup?
Will do better on timing my next shot...
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03-20-2021, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
If it is, explain the corporate indemnifications.
On the "positive" side, Fauci is proudly displaying that he wears two masks even though he has already been fully vaccinated. Masks aren't necessary, masks are necessary, two masks are necessary.....gotta have 6' for proper social distancing....well....unless you need to open a school, then 3' is okay. Following his science makes me appreciate how a dog feels looking at a moving hubcap.
03-20-2021, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
That's just the lawyers earning their billables (or not if you are a plaintiff's attorney). Pretty sure the corporate world is not indemnified from willful conduct or gross negligence. However, if there are issues not known or reasonably known to the manufacturer(s), plaintiffs' attorneys can't cite to the fact that Pfizer, Moderna and JnJ did not follow standard testing protocols and testing as would be consistent with non-pandemic pharmaceuticals.
On the "positive" side, Fauci is proudly displaying that he wears two masks even though he has already been fully vaccinated. Masks aren't necessary, masks are necessary, two masks are necessary.....gotta have 6' for proper social distancing....well....unless you need to open a school, then 3' is okay. Following his science makes me appreciate how a dog feels looking at a moving hubcap.
On the "positive" side, Fauci is proudly displaying that he wears two masks even though he has already been fully vaccinated. Masks aren't necessary, masks are necessary, two masks are necessary.....gotta have 6' for proper social distancing....well....unless you need to open a school, then 3' is okay. Following his science makes me appreciate how a dog feels looking at a moving hubcap.
03-20-2021, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
That's just the lawyers earning their billables (or not if you are a plaintiff's attorney). Pretty sure the corporate world is not indemnified from willful conduct or gross negligence. However, if there are issues not known or reasonably known to the manufacturer(s), plaintiffs' attorneys can't cite to the fact that Pfizer, Moderna and JnJ did not follow standard testing protocols and testing as would be consistent with non-pandemic pharmaceuticals.
On the "positive" side, Fauci is proudly displaying that he wears two masks even though he has already been fully vaccinated. Masks aren't necessary, masks are necessary, two masks are necessary.....gotta have 6' for proper social distancing....well....unless you need to open a school, then 3' is okay. Following his science makes me appreciate how a dog feels looking at a moving hubcap.
On the "positive" side, Fauci is proudly displaying that he wears two masks even though he has already been fully vaccinated. Masks aren't necessary, masks are necessary, two masks are necessary.....gotta have 6' for proper social distancing....well....unless you need to open a school, then 3' is okay. Following his science makes me appreciate how a dog feels looking at a moving hubcap.
03-23-2021, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
‘It’s soup in need of a little bit of spice!
Will do better on timing my next shot...
Denny
Will do better on timing my next shot...
Denny
Youre getting 3 days of pay instead of one for doing the same thing. Am I missing something? They’re trying to encourage us to use off days if possible to prevent lost work days available but if you get your shot over work days, they pay you 3 days of pay, no harm, no foul.
03-23-2021, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
Youre getting 3 days of pay instead of one for doing the same thing. Am I missing something? They’re trying to encourage us to use off days if possible to prevent lost work days available but if you get your shot over work days, they pay you 3 days of pay, no harm, no foul.
Well, color me stupid, but even I can figure this one out.
03-23-2021, 01:11 PM
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Does anyone read in this MOU that we’re obligated in any way to try and schedule the vaccine during an off day? I just had my first, and I’d rather schedule the second over my next reserve days rather than an off day for the extra pay.
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