Easter Meltdown
04-05-2021, 08:01 AM
#141
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
They are all made in the same Chinese sweatshops. But let's talk about reparations for slavery that ended 150 years ago shallwe?
04-05-2021, 08:04 AM
#143
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
Boog for the win....always stand in awe or your well thought out rebuttals. Again.!
04-05-2021, 08:21 AM
#144
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Originally Posted by HTBH
And....just like that another thread goes down the political rabbit hole.
04-05-2021, 08:43 AM
#145
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
Well, apparently the Trump sticker I had on my suitcase created a hostile work environment. So yeah, I think BLM pins are offensive. But I guess my opinion and feelings don't matter.
04-05-2021, 09:31 AM
#146
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I think we can all agree that using UNA as a category was an incredibly stupid idea to begin with. You’re already forced by the PSP to provide full pay, and the difference between 737 reserve guarantee and 717 @ 65 hours is minuscule in the grand scheme. Why not just keep those people qualified and now you’re fat on narrow body FOs that you’re already paying for anyway.
04-05-2021, 09:49 AM
#147
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Originally Posted by Jodaaddy
I think we can all agree that using UNA as a category was an incredibly stupid idea to begin with. You’re already forced by the PSP to provide full pay, and the difference between 737 reserve guarantee and 717 @ 65 hours is minuscule in the grand scheme. Why not just keep those people qualified and now you’re fat on narrow body FOs that you’re already paying for anyway.
But at least there's no FA union.
04-05-2021, 10:07 AM
#149
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Originally Posted by TegridyFarms
If mgmt track record is any indication... I suspect AFA will be on property by years end. Then this is all a total loss.
I think most pilots never really cared either way about a FA drive as its clearly their decision. But playing high stakes poker with the operation as some kind of philosophical prime directive may mean its time to remove that as a variable? Whatever, its up to them.
04-05-2021, 10:08 AM
#150
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
Yes....and they divided their group into thirds. The top third took a 10% ALV cut, the middle third a 20% ALV cut and the bottom third a 50% cut all in an attempt to eliminate furloughs(lots of other moving parts in there) But still, I stand by the assertion that most Delta posters opining about their deal were uniformly negative and expressed a sentiment of "UAL sold us (Delta) down the river".
When does reading the tea leaves properly constitute being astute and when does it just become "luck"?
When does reading the tea leaves properly constitute being astute and when does it just become "luck"?
Any UAL pilot that took the time and understood there was a long game gamble being placed voted yes.
IMHO, anyone against it was looking at “how does it affect me today” vice where we will be at some point in the not too distant future.
Those that complain loudly were in the former group. And most of them are now coming around.
I won’t try and compare your solution to ours. I will say that we don’t have the UNA option you do so that wasn’t on the table.
A long bet was made. In the end thanks to continued government cheese (factored in to our strategy) we made a good deal on this.
Yes, luck was involved but I’d rather be lucky than good. In this case, we were both IMHO.
Yall take care!
Lee
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