If you guys can't see the complete disaster the leadership has been over the past year, along with the number of times their direct, I would almost call out virtual assault on the pilot group has been, your living with your head in the sand. None of us want our airline to fail, but our leadership in so many ways has been overtly hostile, demeaning and dismissive of the pilot group for years. Having the "smartest" airline management eat crow, is somewhat satisfying. Now if they could swallow their collective pride, be a bit more humble in their approach to us, and stop the woke culture and start running an airline, we would all be the better for it.

 

We collect a premium. Supply scarcity drives that premium. They know exactly what they are doing, and where they fail... pilots and Covid are a convenient excuse. That will get us at least through the summer with sufficient cover until profitability returns in Q3. And then all is forgiven and forgotten.

 

it’s not an easy landscape to navigate... and hard to avoid.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/05/b...e=articleShare

 

I’m old enough to remember when the UAL deal came out and some of our pilots lost their collective minds at the mere prospect of anything like that happening here. Then the air of sheer superiority when our deal came out and was viewed as transparently better. But I still think it’s too early in the game to actually know who did it better.

 

What has happened to Delta we used to be a GREAT airline!!!!!!

 

So basically...mob rule is what we're down to.

It wasn't enough to fly the BLM flag at the GO, it wasn't enough paying for tens of thousands of BLM pins, it wasn't enough to remove "ladies and gentlemen" from all our announcements and any reference to he/she/him/her.

At what point is enough...enough? Never. That's the answer.

 

True....but this caught my eye from your link...

"At first, Delta, Georgia’s largest employer, tried to stay out of the fight on voting rights. But after the Georgia law was passed, a group of powerful Black executives publicly called on big companies to oppose the voting legislation. Hours later, Delta and Coca-Cola abruptly reversed course and disavowed the Georgia law."


So, how can you stay out of it and then reverse course?

 

Change is difficult but I'm confident you will get through it. By mob rule, do you mean this mob?

 

yeah, we flew a flag! those gosh darned minorities should be happy already!

 

I don't think the 3-tiered pay system was a good idea, nor do I think that would have passed here. What was good on United's part was how they kept most people in their original seat and everyone stayed qualified. Delta messed up from the start by trying to shove 2500 pilots halfway out the door with the UNA status. I'm sure we could have come up with a plan where you run a relatively small displacement bid for the 88 and 777 pilots, but other than that everyone keeps their spot waiting for the recovery. Look how laughable all their "forecasted pilot staffing" numbers looking 6, 12, and even 24 months out were. Once the government cheese starting covering our payroll we should have tried to keep everyone current and qualified to be in position for a recovery. United and American did basically that, and we did not and now we are paying the price. United is resuming hiring next month while even if we wanted to hire we don't have the training capacity to do so until this fall at the earliest.