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Old 04-04-2021, 06:29 AM
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I’ve never seen so many people so happy when their company is having a hard time, regardless of how they think it happened. I just don’t get the whole ‘good, I hope they choke on it’ attitude.

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I wouldn’t say any of us are happy to see this happening. It’s one of those things where you hope the “sting” hurts enough where management actually does something to fix the problem and prevent it from happening again since in the past it’s mostly been all talk and no action. When you’ve been with a company for 15-20–30+ years and see just how bad it’s gotten with Ed at the helm you can’t help but sit back and watch the show unfold in the hopes that it’s bad enough that maybe...just maybe they’ll actually do something this time. Getting rid of Ed would be a good first step. He’s a banker that wants to be a politician so just let him go do that instead of making our airline be the laughing stock of the industry.

I bet there would be overwhelming approval from the employees (and shareholders) to bring back Richard Anderson.
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Old 04-04-2021, 06:34 AM
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I wouldn’t say any of us are happy to see this happening. It’s one of those things where you hope the “sting” hurts enough where management actually does something to fix the problem and prevent it from happening again since in the past it’s mostly been all talk and no action. When you’ve been with a company for 15-20–30+ years and see just how bad it’s gotten with Ed at the helm you can’t help but sit back and watch the show unfold in the hopes that it’s bad enough that maybe...just maybe they’ll actually do something this time. Getting rid of Ed would be a good first step. He’s a banker that wants to be a politician so just let him go do that instead of making our airline be the laughing stock of the industry.

I bet there would be overwhelming approval from the employees (and shareholders) to bring back Richard Anderson.
He has quite the fan club on skyhub. Every townhall they fall all over themselves to be the first ones to post their praise and devotion.
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Originally Posted by beernutt View Post
I’ve never seen so many people so happy when their company is having a hard time, regardless of how they think it happened. I just don’t get the whole ‘good, I hope they choke on it’ attitude.

Happy Easter.

I think everyone here wants the company to do well. I just don't necessarily want them to get all that success by doing it on the backs of the pilots. They've mismanaged this and gone out of their way to make make it more difficult than it has to be for optics. They've had all their employees being paid by the government for the past year, but they don't have qualified crews to fly the schedule??? I think all of us would agree that, Covid or not, this job has gotten progressively worse over the past couple of years. They push every FAA and contract limit they can with the schedule with minimum ground times, maximum flight times and the optimizer...and then take a poke at the pilots in the latest release about getting their shots?? I feel like we are the horse Boxer in Animal Farm.... we keep saying "I will work harder" while they keep adding bricks to the load with very little consideration to us as pilots other than wondering if is there more work they can squeeze out of us?
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I’ve never seen so many people so happy when their company is having a hard time, regardless of how they think it happened. I just don’t get the whole ‘good, I hope they choke on it’ attitude.

Happy Easter.
they spent the last year playing games with mine and my fellow pilots’ livelihoods, they continuously refused cost savings measures that would have allowed them to recover quickly over “optics” and have tried to make us the bad guy to our fellow co workers because we would not reduce hours while our paychecks were paid by taxpayers. They refused to fix this problem after our thanksgiving and Christmas meltdowns even with the knowledge that the vaccine was most likely going to be distributed by summer. I’m not happy this is happening, but anyone who was looking farther than right infront of their face could have seen this coming. They have used every opportunity in this pandemic to try to hammer us and extort concessions. The fact that behavior is continuing to have consequences might get us some much needed change in leadership and might even discourage similar behavior in the future. I know this won’t likely happen but one can hope
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He has quite the fan club on skyhub. Every townhall they fall all over themselves to be the first ones to post their praise and devotion.
There are always going to be sycophants and there are always going to be haters. I just try to drive the bus and stay in my lane.
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they spent the last year playing games with mine and my fellow pilots’ livelihoods, they continuously refused cost savings measures that would have allowed them to recover quickly over “optics” and have tried to make us the bad guy to our fellow co workers because we would not reduce hours while our paychecks were paid by taxpayers. They refused to fix this problem after our thanksgiving and Christmas meltdowns even with the knowledge that the vaccine was most likely going to be distributed by summer. I’m not happy this is happening, but anyone who was looking farther than right infront of their face could have seen this coming. They have used every opportunity in this pandemic to try to hammer us and extort concessions. The fact that behavior is continuing to have consequences might get us some much needed change in leadership and might even discourage similar behavior in the future. I know this won’t likely happen but one can hope
Man, ‘they’ really have it out for you.
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Man, ‘they’ really have it out for you.
Interesting response to a post that simply stated what has happened. What part of his post was wrong?
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Love the critical ops update. Nice little dig about pilots getting the vaccine and it interfering with trips. Give me a break. I had no desire or need to get the vaccine. Now I’m seriously considering it.
Middle seat is open (but only for 2 days).

Also: Crew and passenger safety our number one priority.

I love the smell of science in the morning. It smells like, %#@$#$$t.
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Originally Posted by beernutt View Post
I’ve never seen so many people so happy when their company is having a hard time, regardless of how they think it happened. I just don’t get the whole ‘good, I hope they choke on it’ attitude.

Happy Easter.
It really is a shame, because most of the animosity towards corporate "leadership" seems unnecessarily provoked or self-induced. This forum has captured many of those instances.

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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux View Post
Middle seat is open (but only for 2 days).

Also: Crew and passenger safety our number one priority.

I love the smell of science in the morning. It smells like, %#@$#$$t.
like someone farted in your mask?
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