I think we should get rid of the longevity scale. Why should a Delta 737 fo make less money than a Delta 737 fo? They do the exact same job.

 

So you think a newhire should make as much as a guy that has been here 25 years if they are in the same seat?

 

They do the same job. If all the airlines were that way it would be easier to decide you want to move to SFO and not commute, just start at another airline without starting at first year pay. No more marriage to the management you hate so much.

 

This is the way real unions work. A 20 year pilot is a 20 year pilot at any union shop.

 

That's so ridiculous it isn't even worth comment.

 

I'm all for it. Starting with the next guy hired, give him a national seniority number and he can go wherever that seniority will give him the best job. It will be really interesting to see how that works out.

 

So don’t comment..

 

If we did a national # that would only help us all as it would no doubt increase pay and total compensation. Just look at the private sector in high demand jobs. See technology jobs pay/compensation packages over the last 10 years. You can take your experience and leverage it into higher paying positions at company's that need bodies in the job.

 

except that experience doesn’t actually make the company money in this job, while it might in, say, engineering management. You’d have zero negotiating leverage when changing jobs

 

So your saying operational experience and general piloting experience are not leverage? If not why not have one pay rate for CA and FO? Or even better just payrates based off of years with the company? Why should CA or FO matter neither seat makes the company money other than operating the flight? If you really want to get down to it as far as productivity goes the FO does more work (starting engines running checklist) per leg than the CA (taxi the ac and call for things) does. Entry level pilot can taxi an air craft with minimal instruction, as far as decision making goes anyone with a private pliot license and above has proven to the FAA or a representative that they are able to make make sound ADM. Then add on Commercial and then an ATP cert it's just more justification and qualifications showing sound skill and ADM... The only difference between CA and FO is when the person was hired at said airline.