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Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 3243767)
Once again, unintended consequences are a b****. Senior pilots with just drop their trips and pick up GS with no trigger. Lowering the trigger in LOA 20-04 was a win, but lowering it to 0 is just a bad idea for 90% of us. No thanks.
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
(Post 3243799)
You obviously haven’t been a NB B for a very long time. No dropping trips and then flying premium. No dropping trips at all except for APD and IVD. Thank god for those.
There should be no trigger. None. Zero. You want me to fly on a day off, pay me. If you want or need it that bad, pay up. Simple as that. If you want to drop your schedule and roll the dice you’ll get GSs in their place, good on you. Also, If you can’t drop trips due to coverage then you are most likely already at the trigger. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3243853)
Not to mention that it would be a extremity expensive item to negotiate if you could get the company to even consider it. Our contract already favors seniority more than some others. No GS trigger would take that into absurdity.
Though I do like the idea of lowering the bank threshold, that is in the same category. |
Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 3243857)
Agreed. Which is why this whole discussion is academic. And totally moo :p
Though I do like the idea of lowering the bank threshold, that is in the same category. |
Originally Posted by BlueSkies
(Post 3243887)
Does anyone know the rationale for premium pay not refilling the bank?
Denny |
Originally Posted by BlueSkies
(Post 3243887)
Does anyone know the rationale for premium pay not refilling the bank?
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane;[url=tel:3243904
3243904[/url]] …As to why greenslips are pay/no credit.......I have no idea.
Denny |
Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 3243912)
I think Denny hit the nail on the head probably. For the same reason they don't want GS counting toward reserve buckets, they also don't want it to count toward bank repayment. It's all about incentives, and toward what...
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The bank is modestly useful (I've been minus in the bank for 15 years!) but it really stems from the pre-PBS days of line of time bidding. Back then we had a "cap" vs the ALV, and you were NOT paid for any time over the cap. So if the cap were 75 hours, and you flew 78, you were only paid 75 and that extra three hours was carried forward to the next month as "bow wave." There were lots of iterations and tricks you could do with the bow wave, and I won't go there as that was 15 years ago. However, pilots always had the option of depositing the bow wave into the bank, vs letting it carry to the next month.
So...cap usually lower than today's ALVs, and anything over the cap was bow wave/bank deposit, and it was a much more frequently used tool. |
Originally Posted by Herkflyr
(Post 3243929)
The bank is modestly useful (I've been minus in the bank for 15 years!) but it really stems from the pre-PBS days of line of time bidding. Back then we had a "cap" vs the ALV, and you were NOT paid for any time over the cap. So if the cap were 75 hours, and you flew 78, you were only paid 75 and that extra three hours was carried forward to the next month as "bow wave." There were lots of iterations and tricks you could do with the bow wave, and I won't go there as that was 15 years ago. However, pilots always had the option of depositing the bow wave into the bank, vs letting it carry to the next month.
So...cap usually lower than today's ALVs, and anything over the cap was bow wave/bank deposit, and it was a much more frequently used tool. |
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