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Akvi223 01-19-2022 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by TheDuster (Post 3355469)
7 days for me, 8 days for another guy in my group. You should’ve received an email saying that you passed the psych portion of your interview. It was the second of two emails you’ll see after you escape cell phone purgatory, first being CJO. One came just after my interview time, two came around 5pm (post psych call with the shrink). Dude that got PARB’d found out the same day…

Thanks for the help. So I got the email saying passed the psychological after my interview but did not get my CJO. That's my concern. Will email today to see what's going on. Hopefully it's just normal part of the process.

Nalam1 01-19-2022 10:45 AM

I also interviewed last week and haven't heard anything yet

TheDuster 01-19-2022 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Nalam1 (Post 3355936)
I also interviewed last week and haven't heard anything yet

After not hearing about the background check for a week I called pilot hiring. He told me that it could take up to two weeks to get the email from Cisive, the background check company. Mine came the next day, and my buddy who interviewed the same day for his on the 9th day. Once you get it, it’s a quick process to submit documents and sign a few forms. They’re seemingly pretty backed up right now, but give them a call if you’re concerned. As for the PARB, I don’t have an answer for how long that’s currently taking.

gloopy 01-19-2022 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3355547)
Thanks for proving my point yet again. This is a gray area as much as you try to pretend it is black and white. Seems as if you don't have an unequivocal answer any more than I do The red above is an excellent example. If you PSC to work with with 20 minutes to spare and the flight cancels...you are good. No way will /can you be fired. But yet you call it dumb if going back to indoc/initial. You can't have it both ways. I assume you feel this way because there MIGHT be some blow back up to and including termination....ergo that hue you are looking for in the paint aisle is called gray (grey if in Great Britain)

I reiterate (especially for military guys that are totally new to this), sometimes the rules aren't black and white and my advise is error on the side of conservative/caution while on probation. Feel free to push the boundaries later.

I don't conceed your point on this which you are basing on false equivalences of varying "grey zone" concepts. You are implying that anyone travelling home on indoc weekend is some rogue rolling the dice with their career. The "blowback" there "might" be "could" come from extreme applications of it. That is the only "grey zone" that even qualifies in this discussion. If you think the company is chomping at the bit to fire NH pilots over flight scheduling meltdowns on indoc weekend I don't know what would convince you otherwise at this point. You've spotted a windmill on the horizon and lowered your lance to run towards it.

I'm also not advocating to "push the boundaries" with extreme cases in theory. Furthermore, the fact that there may be theoretical cases of extremity doesn't remotely imply that the jeopardy you percieve in this is real for the overwhelming vast majority of pilots going home that weekend. If I was a NH reading this and truly wondering if everyone else going home that weekend was some kind of high roller bear trap, I wouldn't take either of our POV's on this; I'd ask the company and the reps directly. If either entity felt it was some high threat event, one or both would say so either directly or so clearly "between the lines" that the message to stay that weekend would be clearly recieved. I don't think that is the case and have never heard of anyone even implying that it could be the case until this thread.

If you are right on this to the extent you believe you are, then the company should keep NH pilots out of CASS/KCM/Travelnet until indoc is complete as well as make it crystal clear that not making it back that Monday morning is a high threat event regardless of the circumstances.

How many pilots in DL's history, if any, have been canned over this? If there were any, how far to the extreme were their travel plans and what other factors were at play? Again, if any.

JetPilotDaddy 01-19-2022 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 3356057)
I don't conceed your point on this which you are basing on false equivalences of varying "grey zone" concepts. You are implying that anyone travelling home on indoc weekend is some rogue rolling the dice with their career. The "blowback" there "might" be "could" come from extreme applications of it. That is the only "grey zone" that even qualifies in this discussion. If you think the company is chomping at the bit to fire NH pilots over flight scheduling meltdowns on indoc weekend I don't know what would convince you otherwise at this point. You've spotted a windmill on the horizon and lowered your lance to run towards it.

I'm also not advocating to "push the boundaries" with extreme cases in theory. Furthermore, the fact that there may be theoretical cases of extremity doesn't remotely imply that the jeopardy you percieve in this is real for the overwhelming vast majority of pilots going home that weekend. If I was a NH reading this and truly wondering if everyone else going home that weekend was some kind of high roller bear trap, I wouldn't take either of our POV's on this; I'd ask the company and the reps directly. If either entity felt it was some high threat event, one or both would say so either directly or so clearly "between the lines" that the message to stay that weekend would be clearly recieved. I don't think that is the case and have never heard of anyone even implying that it could be the case until this thread.

If you are right on this to the extent you believe you are, then the company should keep NH pilots out of CASS/KCM/Travelnet until indoc is complete as well as make it crystal clear that not making it back that Monday morning is a high threat event regardless of the circumstances.

How many pilots in DL's history, if any, have been canned over this? If there were any, how far to the extreme were their travel plans and what other factors were at play? Again, if any.

Exactly. Most went home and there was a scheduling meltdown on Sunday. Most made their primary and a few others used their backup. All the bosses care about is if you have a backup and it goes bad to email them and don't stress. Oh, no KCM until after the IQ 44X

MachSixNine 01-20-2022 02:31 AM


Originally Posted by JP1534 (Post 3355508)
Make sure you complete every part of the email that you accept the job offer from. I thought I did but I went back 4 days after I received the CJO and I didn’t complete the tax questionnaire portion and I think that’s what’s delaying my background email.

Are you talking about the email you get from Cisive initially or is there a different one you’re talking about?

TheDuster 01-20-2022 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by MachSixNine (Post 3356308)
Are you talking about the email you get from Cisive initially or is there a different one you’re talking about?

The one that has the tax questionnaire is from Delta Talent Acquisition and was the first CJO email from the company (sent the morning of the interview). There is a link at the bottom that allows you to accept the offer and another to fill out the tax questionnaire. The second email informs you whether or not you passed the psych portion, reminds you of the vaccine requirement, and tells you to stand by for emails from Cisive. Again, they’re advertising one to two weeks to receive the initial background check email.

7051 01-20-2022 07:21 AM

I just got the email inviting me to do the assessment but I'm out on a trip for the entire 7 day period. How is it doing the assessment on an iPad? Would it be better to find a library on a layover and use a computer there? Any advice is appreciated, I don’t want to screw this up over something stupid.

TheDuster 01-20-2022 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by 7051 (Post 3356454)
I just got the email inviting me to do the assessment but I'm out on a trip for the entire 7 day period. How is it doing the assessment on an iPad? Would it be better to find a library on a layover and use a computer there? Any advice is appreciated, I don’t want to screw this up over something stupid.

I did mine on an IPad. Just get some reps in first using the websites mentioned previously and you’ll be fine. You’ll also have the opportunity to practice prior to each section of the assessment.

JP1534 01-20-2022 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by MachSixNine (Post 3356308)
Are you talking about the email you get from Cisive initially or is there a different one you’re talking about?

I’m talking about the email where you accept the job offer as well as fill out the survey! I did not fill the survey out tell 4 days after the email, by mistake.


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