First Lion Air 737-900 Arriving This Week
#11
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No surprise the aircraft will physically be in Delta possession so but those planes will require a lot of work before entry into service at Delta. Probably full C check, completely new interior and IFE rewiring, HUDs installed, cockpit reconfigured to Delta standard, Viasat installed, Scimitar installed, Paint etc etc. Maybe on the next town hall somebody can ask how long will it take to turn over each plane.
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#13
I think the 737 is a POS and it's sad that we're acquiring them, although at least they aren't MAXs so hopefully the end-date to these 737s is ~20 years away instead of 30.
Having said that, standardization is important. Even in a stupid, antiquated piece of junk.
#14
Just because the 7ER is a non-standardized mess with transponders, TCAS, radars, and whatever else scattered around different places in the cockpit, doesn't mean that a new batch of a different airplane type should also be allowed to be the same, especially when they are going to be around for 20 years.
I think the 737 is a POS and it's sad that we're acquiring them, although at least they aren't MAXs so hopefully the end-date to these 737s is ~20 years away instead of 30.
Having said that, standardization is important. Even in a stupid, antiquated piece of junk.
I think the 737 is a POS and it's sad that we're acquiring them, although at least they aren't MAXs so hopefully the end-date to these 737s is ~20 years away instead of 30.
Having said that, standardization is important. Even in a stupid, antiquated piece of junk.
#15
After flying the MD88 I could clearly understand the hate for that fleet. I can't for the life of me, understand the vitriol hate for the 73N. Flys great, easy to land, and the few extra switches you have hit is overcome by the absolutely fantastic avionics package and very capable FMS(makes alternate planning a breeze). But biggest complaint is the noise which is entirely eliminated by Hot Mics(kudos to Tech Ops for the 800 and older 900 retrofits).
But the more hate it gets the better my seniority will be so maybe I should zip it
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#16
After flying the MD88 I could clearly understand the hate for that fleet. I can't for the life of me, understand the vitriol hate for the 73N. Flys great, easy to land, and the few extra switches you have hit is overcome by the absolutely fantastic avionics package and very capable FMS(makes alternate planning a breeze). But biggest complaint is the noise which is entirely eliminated by Hot Mics(kudos to Tech Ops for the 800 and older 900 retrofits).
But the more hate it gets the better my seniority will be so maybe I should zip it
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But the more hate it gets the better my seniority will be so maybe I should zip it
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But I can adapt and have.
#17
Just because the 7ER is a non-standardized mess with transponders, TCAS, radars, and whatever else scattered around different places in the cockpit, doesn't mean that a new batch of a different airplane type should also be allowed to be the same, especially when they are going to be around for 20 years.
I think the 737 is a POS and it's sad that we're acquiring them, although at least they aren't MAXs so hopefully the end-date to these 737s is ~20 years away instead of 30.
Having said that, standardization is important. Even in a stupid, antiquated piece of junk.
I think the 737 is a POS and it's sad that we're acquiring them, although at least they aren't MAXs so hopefully the end-date to these 737s is ~20 years away instead of 30.
Having said that, standardization is important. Even in a stupid, antiquated piece of junk.
#18
It's the highest paid NB fleet. That's all I know. Paid for cramped suffering. Ridiculous switch farm overhead, little room for recline and chair position, 60 year old caution alerting, tail stand, engine mounting/balance issues, loud, crew baggage space, tail clearance TO/LNDG, wet performance on grooved runways... just to name a few. I'm sure some Frenchie will be along shortly with some mumbling about yokes and tables too.
But I can adapt and have.
But I can adapt and have.
#19
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#20
It's the highest paid NB fleet. That's all I know. Paid for cramped suffering. Ridiculous switch farm overhead, little room for recline and chair position, 60 year old caution alerting, tail stand, engine mounting/balance issues, loud, crew baggage space, tail clearance TO/LNDG, wet performance on grooved runways... just to name a few. I'm sure some Frenchie will be along shortly with some mumbling about yokes and tables too.
But I can adapt and have.
But I can adapt and have.
Ridiculous Switch Farm Overhead and Alerting system; Extremely easy compared to the 88. Figured out the flows in 10 mins. 88 took me days. Alerting system is terrible. Good news is hardly any MELs because the plane only tells you when something really is wrong. No constant CB resets like other fleets.
Tail stand; Who cares? We're not ACS
Engine Mounting/Balance issues; Never heard of this. Again, who cares? We're not Performance Engineering
Crew Baggage; I'll give ya that. It sucks especially for FOs on the 900 with a tight commute unless they have a cool non commuting Captain
Tail Clearance TO/LND; Definitely a threat. Know your liftoff and tails trike pitch attitudes and don't get slow in the flare. Plane still way easier to land then T-tails
Wet performance on grooved rwy; Who cares? Run the LPR, land in the first 1500ft
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