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Old 12-11-2021 | 04:23 AM
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Here is the meat of the email.

“Consolidation windows can be extended up to 150 days if a pilot completes consolidation refresher simulator training. This training must occur prior to the 120th day of the original consolidation window. If a pilot receives an OE/TOE line check more than 60 days after their checkride, an extension will be applied. For pilots who have completed A350 Differences training, this window is 45 days, extendable up to 75 days after a consolidation refresher simulator training or consolidation OE.

If a pilot fails to meet consolidation requirements, he or she will become non-qualified. If unqualified for 12 months or less, the pilot will return for Special Requalification (SRQ) training. This training footprint is 3-4 days in duration, dependent on crew pairing, and ends with a maneuvers validation (MV) and line operational evaluation (LOE). For this affected pilot group, Flight Training is temporarily offering a voluntary, longer training footprint to include warm-up training and supplemental operating experience (SOE). If eligible, you will receive an email with more program details.“
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Old 12-12-2021 | 06:36 PM
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I'm going on 9 weeks with no OE now. I emailed them and asked about consolidation and they didn't even know what I was talking about... I gave up now. Just FYI, don't bother to worry about it because they don't care.
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Old 12-12-2021 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by flyforever1970
I'm going on 9 weeks with no OE now. I emailed them and asked about consolidation and they didn't even know what I was talking about... I gave up now. Just FYI, don't bother to worry about it because they don't care.
What airframe?
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Old 12-12-2021 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by StickPig
What airframe?
I’m going to guess ER or 330. I near the 320 and 737 are almost immediate right now. 44X then OE a couple days later. Not sure about how the 717 and 220 are right now.
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Old 12-13-2021 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
I’m going to guess ER or 330. I near the 320 and 737 are almost immediate right now. 44X then OE a couple days later. Not sure about how the 717 and 220 are right now.
Im sure December is a weird month with holidays and vacation, but I’m over two weeks post 44X with nothing scheduled (not even OBS).
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Old 12-13-2021 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by StickPig
Im sure December is a weird month with holidays and vacation, but I’m over two weeks post 44X with nothing scheduled (not even OBS).
What fleet?
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Old 12-13-2021 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
What fleet?
73N

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Old 12-13-2021 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by The Localizer
Im sure I’m not the only one but has anyone been through the following scenario?
waited 10 weeks for oe (330) was assigned a couple 4 pilot trips that only counted for 1/2 time
anyways long story short I don’t think I’m going to make the 100 hours by 150 days (already been extended) does the company wait until the last minute to remove you? Any idea how long it’s taking to be assigned your requal training? And do you have to do another OE trip after that?
Also how are future months affected while you wait? Thanks in advance
Yes they will wait until the 150th day and then only remove each trip as the start day approaches. You may even wait a while to even get scheduled for your special requal. Once that actually gets scheduled, they’ll remove your trips between present day & special requal. No OE required after but your consolidation does start over.
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Old 12-13-2021 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by StickPig
What airframe?
Sorry... 330B
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Old 12-14-2021 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Here is the meat of the email.

“Consolidation windows can be extended up to 150 days if a pilot completes consolidation refresher simulator training. This training must occur prior to the 120th day of the original consolidation window. If a pilot receives an OE/TOE line check more than 60 days after their checkride, an extension will be applied. For pilots who have completed A350 Differences training, this window is 45 days, extendable up to 75 days after a consolidation refresher simulator training or consolidation OE.

If a pilot fails to meet consolidation requirements, he or she will become non-qualified. If unqualified for 12 months or less, the pilot will return for Special Requalification (SRQ) training. This training footprint is 3-4 days in duration, dependent on crew pairing, and ends with a maneuvers validation (MV) and line operational evaluation (LOE). For this affected pilot group, Flight Training is temporarily offering a voluntary, longer training footprint to include warm-up training and supplemental operating experience (SOE). If eligible, you will receive an email with more program details.“
NOTE: They only talk about the simulator ride or an OE/TOE linecheck as a way to get an extension. For those pilots not on widebody AC, the linecheck is an option as well. Look at 121.434(h)(4) for the regulatory information.

For our training program, look in the DIG for the simulator training: they repeat sim module 306 as C371-Consolidation Training Module and grant the extension as long as you have 'satisfactorily retained knowledge'. Big thing about this is that it isn't a jeopardy event, it's just training with the same standards.
If you fly with a LCA (either through random assignment or bid) that check pilot may coordinate with their department and have a line check placed on the trip and, under 121.434 validate that you have 'satisfactorily retained knowledge' and training grants the extension.

The problem with going unqual, either by not getting an extension, or after exceeding the extension, is that the requalification event IS a jeopardy event/check ride. It contains a couple training sims and then an MV (non-jeopardy) and an LOE (jeopardy).
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