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Old 04-14-2022 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Nothing wrong with that. Beautiful thing is, GS are optional. Enjoy the time at home!

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There seems to be some irrational and misguided opinion that not flying GS will result in a contract faster. It will not. And, it will end up with us in court. If you want to fly them, fly them. If you don't, don't.
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Old 04-14-2022 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Aye everyone makes a mistake here and there. I definitely missed the boat there


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Yeah and everyone makes mistakes. Like- at some point do you stop trusting the company? It seems like again and again these managment guys screw with us and somehow theyre still trustworthy in your mind.
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Old 04-14-2022 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
There seems to be some irrational and misguided opinion that not flying GS will result in a contract faster. It will not. And, it will end up with us in court. If you want to fly them, fly them. If you don't, don't.
Sure, but that’s totally different than Trip7 saying, “Worried about inflation? Just work on your days off!”

To suggest that our collective loss of buying power due to inflation isn’t/shouldn’t be important to us because we can just work on our days off is asinine.

And then to say we should be fine with working on our days off because military pilots work harder and it’s not like a GS is a 6 month deployment is even more doltish.

EDIT: also incredibly tone-deaf considering many pilots leave the mil because they don't want to have to think about work on their days off, but then are told by Trip7 that to combat inflation and the lack of a new contract all they need to do to maintain their 2019 lifestyle is just work on their days off.

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Old 04-14-2022 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jaxsurf
Sure, but that’s totally different than Trip7 saying, “Worried about inflation? Just work on your days off!”

To suggest that our collective loss of buying power due to inflation isn’t/shouldn’t be important to us because we can just work on our days off is asinine.

And then to say we should be fine with working on our days off because military pilots work harder and it’s not like a GS is a 6 month deployment is even more doltish.

EDIT: also incredibly tone-deaf considering many pilots leave the mil because they don't want to have to think about work on their days off, but then are told by Trip7 that to combat inflation and the lack of a new contract all they need to do to maintain their 2019 lifestyle is just work on their days off.
I control what I can control. The process of contract negotiations is playing out and we are all paying and directing thr Union to do that. While that process plays out, there are ample flying opportunities available. Pilots are free decide what's best use of their time. I won't knock anyone for their choice to remain home but I will call out folks who attack others for deciding flying for double time or payback days is an efficient use of their time.

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Old 04-14-2022 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by theUpsideDown
Yeah and everyone makes mistakes. Like- at some point do you stop trusting the company? It seems like again and again these managment guys screw with us and somehow theyre still trustworthy in your mind.
I trust the Union to extract the most value out of the company for this contract. While I don't trust everything this management team says when it comes to running an efficient, profitable and cash flowing airline I trust them 110%. Delta is the most well run airline in the world, and the financial reports back that up. The enterprise, the Brand all exude prestige and quality. The Widget is an absolute machine

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Old 04-14-2022 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
A 5 day GS for me means working and being away from home at least 13 of 15 days. Might as well be deployed. Not to mention the unhealthy lifestyle with our current rotations of no excercise, long duty days, and a layover barely long enough to get food before going to sleep.
Last I checked, greenslips were proffers. No one is required to put in for them nor fly them.
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Old 04-14-2022 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
There seems to be some irrational and misguided opinion that not flying GS will result in a contract faster. It will not. And, it will end up with us in court. If you want to fly them, fly them. If you don't, don't.
It won't end up in court unless there is a coordinated effort. I agree with your statement mostly though other than that.
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Old 04-14-2022 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
I trust the Union to extract the most value out of the company for this contract.
That's funny right there, I don't care who you are.
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Old 04-14-2022 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
It won't end up in court unless there is a coordinated effort. I agree with your statement mostly though other than that.
Just ask Spirit about how their non-coordinated effort kept them out of court.
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Old 04-14-2022 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Just ask Spirit about how their non-coordinated effort kept them out of court.
They got a contract though, didn't they?
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