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FangsF15 03-08-2022 02:31 PM
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 3385403)
Unrealistic to expect that out of pilots. Last time I called in fatigued, it was most obvious fatigue call ever, yet the captain refused to back me and even went out of his way to make sure duty pilot knew he was good to go. It was obvious he was ****ed about my decision but I didn't really care because I've been here so long. No way a new hire would have stood his ground.
Was he on a GS? Was he the one posting on FB recently?

CBreezy 03-08-2022 02:37 PM
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 3385403)
Unrealistic to expect that out of pilots. Last time I called in fatigued, it was most obvious fatigue call ever, yet the captain refused to back me and even went out of his way to make sure duty pilot knew he was good to go. It was obvious he was ****ed about my decision but I didn't really care because I've been here so long. No way a new hire would have stood his ground.
You should have called pro stans. And I don't care what a captain thinks. It takes two votes to get the airplane off the gate and yours counts equal to his. He can pound sand.

Viking busdvr 03-08-2022 02:53 PM
Originally Posted by shock (Post 3385091)
Let me summarize it for you. . .
  • Company ran the operation at Red Line in 2019 & 2020. They will do it again in 2022!
  • GS's have increased 182% since 2018
  • "Unfortunately, there is little ALPA committees can do. . ."
  • So ALPA's solution is: "Flight Operations management must push back on Network demands and say enough is enough!"
  • ALPA requests pilots to call in fatigued if fatigued.
So Ladies & Gentlemen, plan on another summer with NO raise, NO quality of life, NO time off, NO schedule flexibility, NO help from your MEC leadership with NO end in sight!!!
Unfortunately, I believe you are quite wrong with your prognostication. (Not that I really want to repeat the last few summers). This administration is hell-bent on getting us into a war with Russia. Our manning problem will fix itself once ticket prices skyrocket. We will be lucky if we don’t furlough/UNA once again!
I hope I am wrong, but I see some very dark clouds on our horizon.

CBreezy 03-08-2022 02:59 PM
Originally Posted by Viking busdvr (Post 3385431)
Unfortunately, I believe you are quite wrong with your prognostication. (Not that I really want to repeat the last few summers). This administration is hell-bent on getting us into a war with Russia. Our manning problem will fix itself once ticket prices skyrocket. We will be lucky if we don’t furlough/UNA once again!
I hope I am wrong, but I see some very dark clouds on our horizon.
You know who was pushing Biden to have a stronger response to the invasion? I'll give you a hint: not his own party.

Viking busdvr 03-08-2022 03:07 PM
Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3385434)
You know who was pushing Biden to have a stronger response to the invasion? I'll give you a hint: not his own party.
I never said the Republicans were innocent in the war push. The Washington establishment wants this war. The career politicians of both parties want it. The question I have is why? To make them all some more money now that the big pharma vaccines are bust? What good will it do for Mr and Mrs average American?

Whoopsmybad 03-08-2022 03:15 PM
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 3385403)
Unrealistic to expect that out of pilots. Last time I called in fatigued, it was most obvious fatigue call ever, yet the captain refused to back me and even went out of his way to make sure duty pilot knew he was good to go. It was obvious he was ****ed about my decision but I didn't really care because I've been here so long. No way a new hire would have stood his ground.
That’s bull crap on the CAs part. And people need to call in fatigued. I don’t care if you have been here 6 months or 35 years. Call out, you are legally bound to do so, and if anyone pushes back, tell them where they can shove it.

CBreezy 03-08-2022 03:46 PM
Originally Posted by Viking busdvr (Post 3385440)
I never said the Republicans were innocent in the war push. The Washington establishment wants this war. The career politicians of both parties want it. The question I have is why? To make them all some more money now that the big pharma vaccines are bust? What good will it do for Mr and Mrs average American?
I reject that this is driven 100% by career politicians. Certainly there is an aggressive faction in the Republican party. But I reject that anyone wants to go to war with Russia. It is a lose-lose scenario. And not going to war will likely lead to further destabilizion of both Europe and Asia.

Viking busdvr 03-08-2022 04:18 PM
Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3385465)
I reject that this is driven 100% by career politicians. Certainly there is an aggressive faction in the Republican party. But I reject that anyone wants to go to war with Russia. It is a lose-lose scenario. And not going to war will likely lead to further destabilizion of both Europe and Asia.
You’re right CB. It’s all those aggressive Republicans fault….:rolleyes:
Poor old Joe Biden just doesn’t realize he is the President of the United States, and has the power along with the democrat-controlled house and senate to shut this all down……. I guess I better just go buy an electric car….

CBreezy 03-08-2022 04:21 PM
Originally Posted by Viking busdvr (Post 3385484)
You’re right CB. It’s all those aggressive Republicans fault….:rolleyes:
Poor old Joe Biden just doesn’t realize he is the President of the United States, and has the power along with the democrat-controlled house and senate to shut this all down……. I guess I better just go buy an electric car….
That isn't at all what I said.

OOfff 03-08-2022 04:51 PM
Originally Posted by Viking busdvr (Post 3385484)
You’re right CB. It’s all those aggressive Republicans fault….:rolleyes:
Poor old Joe Biden just doesn’t realize he is the President of the United States, and has the power along with the democrat-controlled house and senate to shut this all down……. I guess I better just go buy an electric car….
to shut down what, exactly?


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