MEC Brief: Operating At Red Line, Again
#73
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From: On the Line
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#74
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That’s literally impossible unless they stop hiring. They will run out of unfilled B positions to place new hires in well before the fall. They may not have a big of an AE as they wanted, but there will at least be something before the fall.
#75
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Flight Ops could actually tell Network they can’t staff the flying being requested. I’m sure if they started with something along the lines of, “Due to the most absolutely necessary staffing moves we made during the pandemic that absolutely were the best possible decisions and couldn’t have worked out better for all involved, we need more time to train replacements for all of the pilots that are training on their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th fleets in 2 years.” They’d probably accept that with no problems.
I have no sympathy when they caused the staffing issues and never took an opportunity to change the course when it became apparent we would need more pilots sooner than their pessimistic estimations. We’re the ones paying for it, and when they put out memos selectively using data attempting to show us how it’s not worse at all it is disrespectful and embarrassing.
I have no sympathy when they caused the staffing issues and never took an opportunity to change the course when it became apparent we would need more pilots sooner than their pessimistic estimations. We’re the ones paying for it, and when they put out memos selectively using data attempting to show us how it’s not worse at all it is disrespectful and embarrassing.
#76
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I have it on good authority that recently Flight Ops finally DID push back on Network and tell them that their proposed schedule for summer and fall is unrealistic with regard to staffing and their ability to train. Now, what Network actually does with that dose of reality is anyone's guess.
#77
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I have it on good authority that recently Flight Ops finally DID push back on Network and tell them that their proposed schedule for summer and fall is unrealistic with regard to staffing and their ability to train. Now, what Network actually does with that dose of reality is anyone's guess.
#78
IMO the operating at Red Line article should have focused on fatiguing rotations and highlighted examples like multi leg 12 hr duty combined with short layovers, early report/late report flip flopping during a rotation etc etc. Highlighting record GSs does do much as the company is already hiring at max capacity, GSs are optional, and the Union got the company to agree to a 5 hr reduction of the GS trigger which naturally increases GSs significantly. Bottom line, the rotation quality needs to be improved to reduce fatigue, and and pilots should not hesitate to stop the operation when fatigued.
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#79
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From: Hoping for any position
IMO the operating at Red Line article should have focused on fatiguing rotations and highlighted examples like multi leg 12 hr duty combined with short layovers, early report/late report flip flopping during a rotation etc etc. Highlighting record GSs does do much as the company is already hiring at max capacity, GSs are optional, and the Union got the company to agree to a 5 hr reduction of the GS trigger which naturally increases GSs significantly. Bottom line, the rotation quality needs to be improved to reduce fatigue, and and pilots should not hesitate to stop the operation when fatigued.
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
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