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Originally Posted by smellson
(Post 3391240)
Everytime I've called in fatigued the duty pilot has 110% had my back. Never caught any flack from anyone afterwards either. As someone who was at one point a little paranoid at work, I simply don't feel any "threat" from my cpo. Nobody should be afraid to call in fatigued/sick...
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Originally Posted by Crown
(Post 3391232)
why would they go up when the Duty Pilot doesn't have your back?
Numerous convos with pilots + my own experience shows that calling in fatigued is still frowned upon, and while maybe not be punitive, "on the radar" is a very real thing |
Originally Posted by Crown
(Post 3391244)
I'm envious. That was not my experience last summer. Both times, the Duty Pilot just told me that I was legal for it. No support. None.
If you are fatigued, please call it. |
Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 3391274)
I think I would chalk that up to a bad experience/Duty Pilot, Crown. The recent DALPA MEC podcast has gone out our their way to say the experience is zero threat, and there is zero tracking (there isn't really a mechanism, according to APLA).
If you are fatigued, please call it. |
Originally Posted by Crown
(Post 3391244)
I'm envious. That was not my experience last summer. Both times, the Duty Pilot just told me that I was legal for it. No support. None.
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I’ve called in several times (2 over the last 3 months most recently), never had pushback.
Quite frankly the last time I called in I didn’t need an extension, it was just a long day with crappy sleep and the hour delay in the second flight was just too much for me. What can I say, I’m a wuss. Don’t call the DP looking for justification, you have nothing to prove to them and they are not the judge. Their only job is to acknowledge and process your UNfit/Fatigue status. If a DP gives you pushback I’d say “I understand you don’t agree, I am still calling in fatigued.” I would certainly note the DP pushback in the report to ensure the FAA gets eyes on it. |
Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
(Post 3390748)
I know there will be exceptions, but the group voted overwhelmingly for the LOA.
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Originally Posted by Jp8burner;[url=tel:3391288
3391288]I’ve called in several times (2 over the last 3 months most recently), never had pushback.
Quite frankly the last time I called in I didn’t need an extension, it was just a long day with crappy sleep and the hour delay in the second flight was just too much for me. What can I say, I’m a wuss. Don’t call the DP looking for justification, you have nothing to prove to them and they are not the judge. Their only job is to acknowledge and process your UNfit/Fatigue status. If a DP gives you pushback I’d say “I understand you don’t agree, I am still calling in fatigued.” I would certainly note the DP pushback in the report to ensure the FAA gets eyes on it. That said, I’ve had nothing but excellent support from the Duty Pilots when I’ve had to call fatigued or not extending. |
Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr
(Post 3391349)
This. They are facilitating downstream changes that will happen so you can get the rest you need. Don’t ask them anything, tell them. Tell them you’re done and when you’ll be rested again to be safe to fly.
That said, I’ve had nothing but excellent support from the Duty Pilots when I’ve had to call fatigued or not extending. |
Originally Posted by Crown
(Post 3391244)
I'm envious. That was not my experience last summer. Both times, the Duty Pilot just told me that I was legal for it. No support. None.
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