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biigD 03-17-2022 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3390329)
For a long time around here it was the expectation that you extended. Our extension rate was way way higher than our major competitors. Then the FAA started asking questions.

I see. Didn't realize that was the culture for awhile. Glad to see it changing!

Thruster 03-17-2022 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3390329)
For a long time around here it was the expectation that you extended. Our extension rate was way way higher than our major competitors. Then the FAA started asking questions.

Weren’t we agreeing to extend by simply signing the release? That changed too I believe.

20Fathoms 03-17-2022 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3390245)
Just as a reminder, you are only required to be rested for the duty period you have scheduling. You do not have to be rested for the max possible FDP.

Great point and it extends to the number of pilots too. If you expect to have a 4 man but are legal for 3 and a guy calls out, you don’t have to take it.

CBreezy 03-17-2022 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by 20Fathoms (Post 3390345)
Great point and it extends to the number of pilots too. If you expect to have a 4 man but are legal for 3 and a guy calls out, you don’t have to take it.

I don't know why more guys don't call in fatigued for reserve reach tag on flying

Texasbound 03-17-2022 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 3389252)
Not me. Delta thanked me. A lot. Almost every day. That’s all I need to keep me going.

Didn't they repaint that jet to say "F you?'

TED74 03-17-2022 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by Texasbound (Post 3390432)
Didn't they repaint that jet to say "F you?'

Naw, they say thank you with their words and reserve F you for their actions.

But I’ll see that image in my head if I ever see the FU jet in person.

Der Meister 03-17-2022 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 3390460)
Naw, they say thank you with their words and reserve F you for their actions.

But I’ll see that image in my head if I ever see the FU jet in person.

I personally always see the FU jet even when I fly it. I was/will always be an UNA i very much remember how they treated us. They can go pound as much sand as Ed has lost sleep over.

No amount of TYFAD will solve that problem they created. I will always remember I'm just a number and thus they are always just a number to me. I will always be doing minimal effort until I retire in 30 years. IDGAS about the delta difference these days. The only difference I care about is how much $ I'm loosing by being here compared to my peers. FUPM!

RunFast 03-17-2022 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by Der Meister (Post 3390541)
I personally always see the FU jet even when I fly it. I was/will always be an UNA i very much remember how they treated us. They can go pound as much sand as Ed has lost sleep over.

No amount of TYFAD will solve that problem they created. I will always remember I'm just a number and thus they are always just a number to me. I will always be doing minimal effort until I retire in 30 years. IDGAS about the delta difference these days. The only difference I care about is how much $ I'm loosing by being here compared to my peers. FUPM!

Wait, do tell. Seriously. What are your numbers?

Der Meister 03-17-2022 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by RunFast (Post 3390565)
Wait, do tell. Seriously. What are your numbers?

Quick and fast is 10-15k a year in WB pay at minimum. While one could say PS makes the difference, I will say that PS isn't pay. considering we have gotten 1250 in the past two years for PS. Yeah PS isn't anything unless you have a profit. I'd rather have the pay/work rules.

You can do you, but I'll be doing minimal for the next 30 years. Good luck DAL you'll need it.

LeineLodge 03-17-2022 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by Der Meister (Post 3390568)
Quick and fast is 10-15k a year in WB pay at minimum. While one could say PS makes the difference, I will say that PS isn't pay. considering we have gotten 1250 in the past two years for PS. Yeah PS isn't anything unless you have a profit. I'd rather have the pay/work rules.

You can do you, but I'll be doing minimal for the next 30 years. Good luck DAL you'll need it.

How you were treated as a UNA? It was stressful but you were paid the entire time (acknowledging that was largely due to CARES).

Had to do an extra lap or two on VA Ave? Me too (not UNA.)

Ask the 9/11 furloughees if they’d trade stories with you.

Now you’re saying you’re going to pitch a multi-decade fit? Grow up.

You can be an adult professional while still advocating for better working conditions. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Maybe you’re venting?


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