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Herkflyr 04-11-2022 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3404476)
As mentioned above, reserve GS is where I see most pilots flying premium.

fly a trip on days off, get paid straight time for the trip, have your next reserve days = to that trip length dropped with no affect on your guarantee (plus a carve out for more time off if the trip releases after 3pm) . If you do it right you finish the month with 150 or so credit having worked fewer days than if you sat reserve. (This is referred to as rolling thunder)

the trips I get on reserve tend to be the long days and short nights that we see in the bid package, the trips I see go out as GS tend to be broken up and far less actual flying.

rolling thunder and GSWC don’t solve the company’s staffing problems.

I suppose I'll let the cat out of the bag. The beauty of rolling thunder is that it in effect functions as a GSWC...but is covered under the earlier, GS step of coverage. The company has no choice but to award the reserve GS. Often times they will do everything that they can to avoid GSWC, and they are still rare for the most part.

Gone Flying 04-11-2022 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 3404480)
I suppose I'll let the cat out of the bag. The beauty of rolling thunder is that it in effect functions as a GSWC...but is covered under the earlier, GS step of coverage. The company has no choice but to award the reserve GS. Often times they will do everything that they can to avoid GSWC, and they are still rare for the most part.

I remember in one of the “navigating summer flying” things ALPA put out, rolling thunder was discussed. I have talked with several people who have had good success and generally seem to fly less even though they are crediting substantially more.

Nantonaku 04-11-2022 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 3404480)
I suppose I'll let the cat out of the bag. The beauty of rolling thunder is that it in effect functions as a GSWC...but is covered under the earlier, GS step of coverage. The company has no choice but to award the reserve GS. Often times they will do everything that they can to avoid GSWC, and they are still rare for the most part.

Which really doesn't make very much sense, you are still robbing Peter to pay Paul. Reserves are almost guaranteed a trip in many categories right now, so in the end what is the difference? I keep GSWC slips in but never get a call. Almost every single day I look at reserve coverage and it is always right around 0. It is amazing to me the wheels don't fall off more often just by looking at the reserve coverage in my category.

Gone Flying 04-11-2022 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by Nantonaku (Post 3404502)
Which really doesn't make very much sense, you are still robbing Peter to pay Paul. Reserves are almost guaranteed a trip in many categories right now, so in the end what is the difference? I keep GSWC slips in but never get a call. Almost every single day I look at reserve coverage and it is always right around 0. It is amazing to me the wheels don't fall off more often just by looking at the reserver coverage in my category.

I can’t imagine we don’t melt down this weekend. My phone won’t stop ringing on non holiday weekdays.

summer is gonna be fun

CBreezy 04-11-2022 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Nantonaku (Post 3404502)
Which really doesn't make very much sense, you are still robbing Peter to pay Paul. Reserves are almost guaranteed a trip in many categories right now, so in the end what is the difference? I keep GSWC slips in but never get a call. Almost every single day I look at reserve coverage and it is always right around 0. It is amazing to me the wheels don't fall off more often just by looking at the reserve coverage in my category.

I don't know what the threshold is, but I've seen quite a few GSWC and OOBGSWC around the system.

neodd 04-11-2022 03:38 PM

40 GS calls in the last week and 8 IA. 2 were OOB.

hockeypilot44 04-11-2022 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3404507)
I can’t imagine we don’t melt down this weekend. My phone won’t stop ringing on non holiday weekdays.

summer is gonna be fun

It never melts down. Worst case scenario we cancel some flights. For the most part, our pilot group loves working on our days off for double time. There was a time when it was frowned upon to do GS's on an expired, I mean amendable contract. Those days were two decades ago.

Rooster435 04-12-2022 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3404507)
I can’t imagine we don’t melt down this weekend. My phone won’t stop ringing on non holiday weekdays.

summer is gonna be fun

Very category dependent. I’m 73A and haven’t had a single call in about 4 weeks. System is only as good as it’s weakest link so you might still be right. I think balanced staffing is still all buggered up from the crazy COVID manning decisions and resulting training tsunami.

Fourpaw 04-13-2022 07:33 AM

Help me understand this one.

Find a nice trip in open time. Put in for the trip specifically in addition to my blanket GS. Call the company and they say it’s out on GS call at the moment…currently on pilot 2.

Waiting for my call…it gets awarded to a slightly more senior WS? I thought once a trip was on GS that’s it?

DWC CAP10 USAF 04-13-2022 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by Fourpaw (Post 3405478)
Help me understand this one.

Find a nice trip in open time. Put in for the trip specifically in addition to my blanket GS. Call the company and they say it’s out on GS call at the moment…currently on pilot 2.

Waiting for my call…it gets awarded to a slightly more senior WS? I thought once a trip was on GS that’s it?

I believe Scheds is running a few steps concurrently


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