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theUpsideDown 04-06-2022 05:01 PM
Originally Posted by Iceberg (Post 3401644)
Sleeps important, umkay. Just not for pilots. But definitely for decision makers. Important decision makers, like business decision makers, not those making trivial decisions to avoid mashing a couple hundred people into a smoking hole.
The business guys are doing lines of coke. No sleep with coke.

TegridyFarms 04-07-2022 07:29 AM
Originally Posted by Foggles (Post 3401545)
I don’t care how good that 2-day greenslip looked in ARCOS. Stop coming to work sick. It’s a d-bag move to come in and sit next your coworker for eight hours sneezing, coughing, blowing your nose and struggling to breathe through your nose. That’s not “allergies”, bud.

Do better for yourself and your coworkers.
I second this. Right now I am wrapping up some allergies from the last trip I flew with the guy who had allergies! Contagious allergies. Who would’ve thunk? He ate an entire bag of Ricola cough drops in a day!

neodd 04-07-2022 05:02 PM
So for a new guy to GS…

When I get a callout for a trip that reports 55 minutes ago and departs in 5 minutes, or 30 minutes, or some other number of unrealistic minutes… What’s my obligation or due consideration before I accept something like that. Do I need to be at the airport or nearby or have already sorted out how I’m going to make that work?

I’m getting these OOBGS and even normal GS so late in the game that I can’t do it even if I wanted to. If I got the call 3-4 hours ago, I totally would have been able to make it work but I guess they gotta get through so many people before it gets to me.

Iceberg 04-07-2022 05:07 PM
Originally Posted by neodd (Post 3402314)
So for a new guy to GS…

When I get a callout for a trip that reports 55 minutes ago and departs in 5 minutes, or 30 minutes, or some other number of unrealistic minutes… What’s my obligation or due consideration before I accept something like that. Do I need to be at the airport or nearby or have already sorted out how I’m going to make that work?

I’m getting these OOBGS and even normal GS so late in the game that I can’t do it even if I wanted to. If I got the call 3-4 hours ago, I totally would have been able to make it work but I guess they gotta get through so many people before it gets to me.
If you want it, accept it. When they call to award you the trip, tell them when you can be there. They’ll tell you if it works for them or not. Ask for close in parking too if that helps you out.

freezingflyboy 04-07-2022 05:19 PM
Originally Posted by neodd (Post 3402314)
So for a new guy to GS…

When I get a callout for a trip that reports 55 minutes ago and departs in 5 minutes, or 30 minutes, or some other number of unrealistic minutes… What’s my obligation or due consideration before I accept something like that. Do I need to be at the airport or nearby or have already sorted out how I’m going to make that work?

I’m getting these OOBGS and even normal GS so late in the game that I can’t do it even if I wanted to. If I got the call 3-4 hours ago, I totally would have been able to make it work but I guess they gotta get through so many people before it gets to me.
Any time I've accepted a GS like that, after the Arcos call awarding the trip, a minute later the schedulers are calling to find out when you can actually be there. I think they just want accurate information to put on the schedule, forward to gate agents, check duty times of other crew members, etc. If I'm at home it's 90 mins minimum door to door for me. I can shave off 20 mins if they want to approve garage parking. Haven't had them say "thanks but no thanks" yet.

fishforfun 04-07-2022 05:47 PM
Originally Posted by Iceberg (Post 3402318)
If you want it, accept it. When they call to award you the trip, tell them when you can be there. They’ll tell you if it works for them or not. Ask for close in parking too if that helps you out.
If it’s an ARCOS callout it’s all automated. No actual person unless you call them.

fishforfun 04-07-2022 05:49 PM
Originally Posted by Iceberg (Post 3402318)
If you want it, accept it. When they call to award you the trip, tell them when you can be there. They’ll tell you if it works for them or not. Ask for close in parking too if that helps you out.
If it’s an ARCOS callout it’s all automated. No actual person unless you call them.

sailingfun 04-07-2022 06:12 PM
Originally Posted by neodd (Post 3402314)
So for a new guy to GS…

When I get a callout for a trip that reports 55 minutes ago and departs in 5 minutes, or 30 minutes, or some other number of unrealistic minutes… What’s my obligation or due consideration before I accept something like that. Do I need to be at the airport or nearby or have already sorted out how I’m going to make that work?

I’m getting these OOBGS and even normal GS so late in the game that I can’t do it even if I wanted to. If I got the call 3-4 hours ago, I totally would have been able to make it work but I guess they gotta get through so many people before it gets to me.
Regardless of when the trip was scheduled to depart they have to award you the trip if you are promptly available. That’s loosely defined as 2 hours. If the trip departs sooner than that they will call and ask when you will arrive.

bugman61 04-07-2022 06:14 PM
Originally Posted by neodd (Post 3402314)
So for a new guy to GS…

When I get a callout for a trip that reports 55 minutes ago and departs in 5 minutes, or 30 minutes, or some other number of unrealistic minutes… What’s my obligation or due consideration before I accept something like that. Do I need to be at the airport or nearby or have already sorted out how I’m going to make that work?

I’m getting these OOBGS and even normal GS so late in the game that I can’t do it even if I wanted to. If I got the call 3-4 hours ago, I totally would have been able to make it work but I guess they gotta get through so many people before it gets to me.

When you are awarded a GS the PWA specifies that you are afforded short call response times (23.Q.11.b.)

bugman61 04-07-2022 06:15 PM
Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3402354)
Regardless of when the trip was scheduled to depart they have to award you the trip if you are promptly available. That’s loosely defined as 2 hours. If the trip departs sooner than that they will call and ask when you will arrive.

Please show me where there is any reference, loose or not, to short call notice being 2 hours.


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