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Originally Posted by neodd (Post 3402314)

So for a new guy to GS…

When I get a callout for a trip that reports 55 minutes ago and departs in 5 minutes, or 30 minutes, or some other number of unrealistic minutes… What’s my obligation or due consideration before I accept something like that. Do I need to be at the airport or nearby or have already sorted out how I’m going to make that work?

I’m getting these OOBGS and even normal GS so late in the game that I can’t do it even if I wanted to. If I got the call 3-4 hours ago, I totally would have been able to make it work but I guess they gotta get through so many people before it gets to me.

This is from the PWA:

11. When awarding a GS or GSWC the Company will:
a. attempt to contact the pilot using at least two telephone numbers listed in DBMS,
b. allow a pilot in a non-time critical assignment (i.e., a rotation that is scheduled to
depart three hours or more after attempted contact) no less than ten minutes to
respond from the first attempted contact, and
c. afford the pilot accepting the award the reporting time ability of a short call reserve pilot.

Remember if you can make it in the SC call out time as mentioned above and they choose to skip over you to get the flight out sooner you are pay protected for that (single pay no credit) as a 4F1C company convenience removal.

Okay, that helps a lot. Treat it like short call.

Now, more complicated: I don’t live in base. I don’t live in any base (working on that).

Let’s say I get an ARCOS callout for a trip leaving ATL, which I can normally get to within a couple hours based on normal service. Can I call crew scheduling and work a positive space listing if the flight is booked (delta mainline)?

Or let’s say there’s a trip with a DH on the front. Can I DH deviate from my closest airport as long as I get there in time? Or if it ends in a DH, can I deviate home?

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Originally Posted by fishforfun (Post 3402341)

If it’s an ARCOS callout it’s all automated. No actual person unless you call them.

I guess they were just calling for an idea of when I would be there, not to award it. My mistake.

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Originally Posted by fishforfun (Post 3402340)

If it’s an ARCOS callout it’s all automated. No actual person unless you call them.

I've been called by a scheduler before in that kind of situation.

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Originally Posted by Iceberg (Post 3402394)

I guess they were just calling for an idea of when I would be there, not to award it. My mistake.

That makes sense if it’s a close in award. I’ve never accepted anything with less than about 5 hours to report so that’s why I’ve never got the personal call.

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Originally Posted by TegridyFarms (Post 3401963)

I second this. Right now I am wrapping up some allergies from the last trip I flew with the guy who had allergies! Contagious allergies. Who would’ve thunk? He ate an entire bag of Ricola cough drops in a day!

I once sent a pilot home at an out station for coming to work sick, he was a RES. Same deal, gallon ziplock full of throat lozenges. Some have learned nothing from covid, selfish and idiotic.

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Originally Posted by bugman61 (Post 3402357)

Please show me where there is any reference, loose or not, to short call notice being 2 hours.

You might want to read the exception to 22.S.7.b which says "[t]he pilot must be able to report for a rotation with a report as early as two hours after the start of the short call period."

I define “promptly available” as sitting short call at home in Bozeman.

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Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3402564)

I define “promptly available” as sitting short call at home in Bozeman.

Think that made you the "promptestly" available of the alleged "short call abusers" back in the day. 😁