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Old 12-11-2025 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Khantahr
Don't you?

There is no part of being a captain that gives you so much work that you can't spare the time to do a walk around, even if it does take you ten minutes. Sure, occasionally, maybe, there will be some crazy MEL or other situation that requires all your time, but that is highly unusual.
Plan for the worst hope for the best. Also, there is no part of being an FO that gives you so much work that you can't spare the time to do a walk around, no exceptions.
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Old 12-11-2025 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
You realize it's an inspection, right?
It didn't take me 10 min to do a walk around when I had to "inspect" the jet and the weapons hanging off of it

If it takes you 10 min to do a walk around, sounds like you need more practice
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Old 12-11-2025 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Plan for the worst hope for the best. Also, there is no part of being an FO that gives you so much work that you can't spare the time to do a walk around, no exceptions.
Your spelled captain wrong
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Old 12-11-2025 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Your spelled captain wrong
The ol' emergency pushback. Gotta keep those metrics going in the right direction
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Old 12-11-2025 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey
It didn't take me 10 min to do a walk around when I had to "inspect" the jet and the weapons hanging off of it

If it takes you 10 min to do a walk around, sounds like you need more practice
How many lives on that weapon laden jet? You could skip it altogether, nobody would know. Why do you bother?
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Old 12-11-2025 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Probably a controversial take. While I generally like getting outside, doesn't SWA just do a walkaround on the first flight of the day? Sounds like a reasonable way to do it. I can count on one hand the number of issues I've found on walkarounds in 20+ years of airline and military flying. None of them were anything of note save the one time i found a bottomed out nose strut after a seal blew out due to extreme cold (Baltic country in the winter...do not recommend). Standing by for the anecdotal stories of finding things that saved a hull loss.
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Old 12-11-2025 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Khantahr
Don't you?

There is no part of being a captain that gives you so much work that you can't spare the time to do a walk around, even if it does take you ten minutes. Sure, occasionally, maybe, there will be some crazy MEL or other situation that requires all your time, but that is highly unusual.
I wholeheartedly disagree with the crazy MEL part.

If I have a complex MEL that affects us THAT much, it's going to be an active discussion between the two. I want the FO to be the second set of eyes to make sure we don't make a mistake.
"Hey so it says (read verbatim). I'm interpreting that to mean ABC, so we need to do XYZ about it. Do you agree?".

Any situation that arises that requires all of my time is an abnormal situation. That automatically becomes my delay code and we push when we're both ready. Use that fourth stripe to make time.
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Old 12-11-2025 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Probably a controversial take. While I generally like getting outside, doesn't SWA just do a walkaround on the first flight of the day? Sounds like a reasonable way to do it. I can count on one hand the number of issues I've found on walkarounds in 20+ years of airline and military flying. None of them were anything of note save the one time i found a bottomed out nose strut after a seal blew out due to extreme cold (Baltic country in the winter...do not recommend). Standing by for the anecdotal stories of finding things that saved a hull loss.
Hydraulic leaks.

Bird strikes.

Cut tires.

Missing fairings.

Flap damage.

Wing leading edge damage.

Gap between engine mount, engine (could see daylight thru it).

Missing screws from the engine cowl.

oil residue in the exhaust nozzle where it should not be.

belly scrapes.

leaking fuel.

smoking brakes with associated glow.

Stabs misaligned

Flat tires.

Compressed/flat/bottomed out struts.

Weird electrical odor emanating from the E/E

Many more as well, all in the course of my career. None of these were on FFOD. Would they take the jet out? Who knows. We never got that far.
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Old 12-11-2025 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Hydraulic leaks.

Bird strikes.

Cut tires.

Missing fairings.

Flap damage.

Wing leading edge damage.

Gap between engine mount, engine (could see daylight thru it).

Missing screws from the engine cowl.

oil residue in the exhaust nozzle where it should not be.

belly scrapes.

leaking fuel.

smoking brakes with associated glow.

Stabs misaligned

Flat tires.

Compressed struts.

Weird electrical odor emanating from the E/E

Many more as well, all in the course of my career. Would they take the jet out? Who knows. We never got that far.
exactly. we as a pilot group catch things on walk arounds constantly
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Old 12-11-2025 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
exactly. we as a pilot group catch things on walk arounds constantly
I would feel pretty damn naked knowing no one performed an exterior inspection during a turn at an outstation.

I think this is another reason why it's good to alternate the exterior inspection - your eyes might catch something mine missed.
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