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Old 12-11-2024 | 06:14 AM
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I've never understood why the company doesn't buy the office building across Virginia Ave from OC3, tear it down, and build a ~15 story hotel there. Two floors of parking, 3rd floor is a lobby with access to a bridge straight into OC3 and a few restaurants (I imagine a sports bar, a Mexican joint, and a 24 hr Starbucks would be required...), a procedures trainer floor, then like 9-10 floors of Embassy Suite style rooms. Maybe a floor with presidential suites and another with a rooftop restaurant overlooking the campus/airport for wining and dining business interests. Hire Hilton/Westin/Marriott to run the place.

Or buy the Regus business office and do the same thing. Or just outright buy the Rennaissance if they don't want all the construction hassles.

I have to imagine they'd make their money back in just a few years.
A floor with Presidential suites? Lol. Is that only for 350 CAs?
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Old 12-11-2024 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotWombat
I've never understood why the company doesn't buy the office building across Virginia Ave from OC3, tear it down, and build a ~15 story hotel there. Two floors of parking, 3rd floor is a lobby with access to a bridge straight into OC3 and a few restaurants (I imagine a sports bar, a Mexican joint, and a 24 hr Starbucks would be required...), a procedures trainer floor, then like 9-10 floors of Embassy Suite style rooms. Maybe a floor with presidential suites and another with a rooftop restaurant overlooking the campus/airport for wining and dining business interests. Hire Hilton/Westin/Marriott to run the place.

Or buy the Regus business office and do the same thing. Or just outright buy the Rennaissance if they don't want all the construction hassles.

I have to imagine they'd make their money back in just a few years.
Careful what you wish for. AA built a company owned "hotel" used for training on our new corporate campus. Everyone's comings and goings are monitored and no guests allowed. You eat what they want you to eat (not cheap either) and you do what they want you to do. Conspiracy theories abound (are they even monitoring internet traffic?) It feels like a corporate prison. You're better off in a hotel that isn't 100% owned and controlled by the company.
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Old 12-11-2024 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
Careful what you wish for. AA built a company owned "hotel" used for training on our new corporate campus. Everyone's comings and goings are monitored and no guests allowed. You eat what they want you to eat (not cheap either) and you do what they want you to do. Conspiracy theories abound (are they even monitoring internet traffic?) It feels like a corporate prison. You're better off in a hotel that isn't 100% owned and controlled by the company.
How many pilots have actually been fired so far based on data collected at the corporate hotel? My guess is the same number fired based on data collected through the iPad camera.

Preventing them from monitoring your Internet traffic is easily done a number of different ways.
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Old 12-11-2024 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotWombat
I've never understood why the company doesn't buy the office building across Virginia Ave from OC3, tear it down, and build a ~15 story hotel there. Two floors of parking, 3rd floor is a lobby with access to a bridge straight into OC3 and a few restaurants (I imagine a sports bar, a Mexican joint, and a 24 hr Starbucks would be required...), a procedures trainer floor, then like 9-10 floors of Embassy Suite style rooms. Maybe a floor with presidential suites and another with a rooftop restaurant overlooking the campus/airport for wining and dining business interests. Hire Hilton/Westin/Marriott to run the place.

Or buy the Regus business office and do the same thing. Or just outright buy the Rennaissance if they don't want all the construction hassles.

I have to imagine they'd make their money back in just a few years.
​​​​​​Our need for hotel capacity varies widely over time.
Consider 2009 vs 2019 for example. Which requirement do you build for? Some things are better to rent than own.
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Old 12-11-2024 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotWombat
I've never understood why the company doesn't buy the office building across Virginia Ave from OC3, tear it down, and build a ~15 story hotel there. Two floors of parking, 3rd floor is a lobby with access to a bridge straight into OC3 and a few restaurants (I imagine a sports bar, a Mexican joint, and a 24 hr Starbucks would be required...), a procedures trainer floor, then like 9-10 floors of Embassy Suite style rooms. Maybe a floor with presidential suites and another with a rooftop restaurant overlooking the campus/airport for wining and dining business interests. Hire Hilton/Westin/Marriott to run the place.

Or buy the Regus business office and do the same thing. Or just outright buy the Rennaissance if they don't want all the construction hassles.

I have to imagine they'd make their money back in just a few years.
You would have to have an Irish pub and a shoe shine guy with white polish too. All white leather NBs don't shine themselves. I think they sold the old reservations building but that could have been renovated into a hotel. They don't want to be in the hotel business in case they have to abandon a city... NRT.
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Old 12-11-2024 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
That's your whole take on that? Measuring the situation based on how many pilots have been fired? Lol.

How many airline pilots have you personally known throughout your entire career (not anecdotally) who actually got fired for doing something? That's a stupid way to measure anything in this industry.

0 points for your snarky response which wasn't needed. Just sharing some info you may not have been aware of. Sorry for intruding. Keep earning those stereotypes over there. Lol.
I didn’t intend for that to come across as snarky at all. It’s a fair question. Has any pilot ever been fired, disciplined, or even approached by management based on data collected at this “corporate prison”? Your view of it is overly paranoid, IMHO.

I wouldn’t go downstairs to the bar at the company-owned hotel, get plastered, and act like a frat boy while harrassing FAs all night. That behavior would get you in equal trouble at a company-contracted hotel. I simply don’t subscribe to the theory that a company-owned hotel adds additional risk to a pilot’s career.

FWIW, our primary training hotel in ATL is already 100% contracted out to Delta. Delta corporate security monitors the property and all individuals entering/exiting. It’s not much different from the AA property in terms of “corporate surveillance”. The main difference is that it looks like a Motel 6 in comparison to the AA hotel.

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Old 12-11-2024 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
Careful what you wish for. AA built a company owned "hotel" used for training on our new corporate campus. Everyone's comings and goings are monitored and no guests allowed. You eat what they want you to eat (not cheap either) and you do what they want you to do. Conspiracy theories abound (are they even monitoring internet traffic?) It feels like a corporate prison. You're better off in a hotel that isn't 100% owned and controlled by the company.
stop lurking in a delta thread and maybe you wont get **** on…….just sayin. I could never in a million years care what is going on in the other airlines home turf on apc
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Old 12-11-2024 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ancman
I wouldn’t go downstairs to the bar at the company-owned hotel, get plastered, and act like a frat boy while harrassing FAs all night.
Don't judge me.
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Old 12-11-2024 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
Careful what you wish for. AA built a company owned "hotel" used for training on our new corporate campus. Everyone's comings and goings are monitored and no guests allowed. You eat what they want you to eat (not cheap either) and you do what they want you to do. Conspiracy theories abound (are they even monitoring internet traffic?) It feels like a corporate prison. You're better off in a hotel that isn't 100% owned and controlled by the company.
This is your your yearly reminder to never use public Internet without a VPN
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Old 12-11-2024 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
​​​​​​Our need for hotel capacity varies widely over time.
Consider 2009 vs 2019 for example. Which requirement do you build for? Some things are better to rent than own.
like a refinery
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