Hundreds of cancellations
#1321
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 1,648
Tipping.
Allow pax to tip flight crew. EVERY other service industry employee receives gratuity. What’s more worthy of gratuity than safely transporting people in a metal tube 6 miles high, near the speed of sound, and bringing them back to earth unscathed?
Pilots and FAs go the extra mile, pax tip handsomely, through the roof passenger engagement, everyone profits.
FAs already receive gifts from first class and D1 pax. Why not pilots? Should be a pretty easy add to the Fly Delta app.
Allow pax to tip flight crew. EVERY other service industry employee receives gratuity. What’s more worthy of gratuity than safely transporting people in a metal tube 6 miles high, near the speed of sound, and bringing them back to earth unscathed?
Pilots and FAs go the extra mile, pax tip handsomely, through the roof passenger engagement, everyone profits.
FAs already receive gifts from first class and D1 pax. Why not pilots? Should be a pretty easy add to the Fly Delta app.
Before you leave the gate, make an announcement, “the screen in front of you has just a few questions for you….”
Do you want to tip [15%] [20%] [25%] [Custom]?
And then come out of the cockpit and look at every screen and make some judgement smirks while their receipts print.
#1322
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Joined APC: Jun 2022
Posts: 194
That’d be hilarious.
Before you leave the gate, make an announcement, “the screen in front of you has just a few questions for you….”
Do you want to tip [15%] [20%] [25%] [Custom]?
And then come out of the cockpit and look at every screen and make some judgement smirks while their receipts print.
Before you leave the gate, make an announcement, “the screen in front of you has just a few questions for you….”
Do you want to tip [15%] [20%] [25%] [Custom]?
And then come out of the cockpit and look at every screen and make some judgement smirks while their receipts print.
#1323
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Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 775
The company doesn’t care. I watched them take a fully boarded airplane and at about D-12 pull the FO off and cancel the flight. Sent the FO somewhere else, probably a more lucrative flight.
I’m not married to this place, I work here. Do your job and what is required of you. It’s not required to stand at the door giving thanks 150+ times. It’s not required to make gatehouse announcements. It’s not required to bend over backwards on days off to keep this place afloat.
Airlines took $50 BILLION dollars in aid over the last 24 months to maintain payroll and financial obligations during Covid. They chose to spend their money on other BS, and now, this. They won’t be held accountable, they don’t care, why should you?
Customers also don’t care about you. They want to get from point A to point B. You’re just the driver who takes them there, and unlike Uber you’re not getting a 5 star or a 1 star.
I agree with the fix it sentiment of your post though.
I’m not married to this place, I work here. Do your job and what is required of you. It’s not required to stand at the door giving thanks 150+ times. It’s not required to make gatehouse announcements. It’s not required to bend over backwards on days off to keep this place afloat.
Airlines took $50 BILLION dollars in aid over the last 24 months to maintain payroll and financial obligations during Covid. They chose to spend their money on other BS, and now, this. They won’t be held accountable, they don’t care, why should you?
Customers also don’t care about you. They want to get from point A to point B. You’re just the driver who takes them there, and unlike Uber you’re not getting a 5 star or a 1 star.
I agree with the fix it sentiment of your post though.
#1324
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Position: NBC
Posts: 763
I think our negotiating position IS strengthened by operational leadership and customer experience. Add “gratuity” language to the contract, or pay us for leadership and engagement directly proportional the the experience scores the company wants to achieve. Pay = performance.
All this “we’re not a family” talk hurts our standing in the company. We are the operational leaders of the company. The company flat-out showcases our leadership with every Ops newsletter. Fellow frontline employees look to us for team leadership, respect, and to keep the operation moving. The “we’re not a family” mentality damages relationships with the other employee groups and in the end undermines our negotiating position.
There are plenty of other cattle car airlines to work for if being part of a family isn’t your bag. Heck, the industry is in the middle of a huge “pilot shortage,” right?
Last edited by Speed Select; 06-27-2022 at 05:20 AM.
#1325
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,084
Bingo.
I think our negotiating position IS strengthened by operational leadership and customer experience. Add “gratuity” language to the contract, or pay us for leadership and engagement directly proportional the the experience scores the company wants to achieve. Pay = performance.
All this “we’re not a family” talk hurts our standing in the company. We are the operational leaders of the company. The company flat-out showcases our leadership with every Ops newsletter. Fellow frontline employees look to us for team leadership, respect, and to keep the operation moving. The “we’re not a family” mentality damages relationships with the other employee groups and in the end undermines our negotiating position.
I think our negotiating position IS strengthened by operational leadership and customer experience. Add “gratuity” language to the contract, or pay us for leadership and engagement directly proportional the the experience scores the company wants to achieve. Pay = performance.
All this “we’re not a family” talk hurts our standing in the company. We are the operational leaders of the company. The company flat-out showcases our leadership with every Ops newsletter. Fellow frontline employees look to us for team leadership, respect, and to keep the operation moving. The “we’re not a family” mentality damages relationships with the other employee groups and in the end undermines our negotiating position.
Second, no. We are not family. Stop saying it. There is not one single person here that I would go out of the way to miss birthdays or holidays for. You're my coworker. I'm paid to spend time with you. That's literally the end of the relationship.
#1326
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Joined APC: Jun 2022
Posts: 1,278
It’s about the people. If I can go out and make 160 people feel like they finally know what’s going on wrt when the missing piece is going to show up and we can get out of here, then I’ll suffer through my own embarrassment to do so. Gate agents don’t know ****, and they don’t tell the pax ****. The pax just sit in limbo up there. To the few keyboard warriors that responded negatively, I would counter that you should find some humanity. A couple of succinct data points can at least let people start the 7 stages of grief for the 3 hour delay they are about to endure. I don’t care about the company, it’s about empathy and being the one dude in that moment that can provide clarity and make other humans feel just a touch better
#1328
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Position: NBC
Posts: 763
First, GTFO of here with adding gratuity. Are you serious?! There is NOTHING that devalues our worth more than allowing effing tips as compensation..
Second, no. We are not family. Stop saying it. There is not one single person here that I would go out of the way to miss birthdays or holidays for. You're my coworker. I'm paid to spend time with you. That's literally the end of the relationship.
Second, no. We are not family. Stop saying it. There is not one single person here that I would go out of the way to miss birthdays or holidays for. You're my coworker. I'm paid to spend time with you. That's literally the end of the relationship.
I’m not on any committee, but until we signal to the company we’re willing to fundamentally change the customer experience through radical contractual changes, they've got us cornered.
So yeah, when I’m at work, I treat fellow employees like family. If you don’t, fine. But you are flat out hurting our negotiating position: operational leadership and customer experience. These two things are how we (majorly) contribute to Delta’s fare premium and “record” profits. You’re paid to fly airplanes and be a leader, not merely spend time with me. “Spend time with coworkers?” That’s your negotiating position? Please tell us you’re not on any committee.
Nobodys asking you to miss your kid’s birthday party. As long as you can bid that day off.
Last edited by Speed Select; 06-27-2022 at 06:16 AM.
#1329
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Position: NBC
Posts: 763
It’s about the people. If I can go out and make 160 people feel like they finally know what’s going on wrt when the missing piece is going to show up and we can get out of here, then I’ll suffer through my own embarrassment to do so. Gate agents don’t know ****, and they don’t tell the pax ****. The pax just sit in limbo up there. To the few keyboard warriors that responded negatively, I would counter that you should find some humanity. A couple of succinct data points can at least let people start the 7 stages of grief for the 3 hour delay they are about to endure. I don’t care about the company, it’s about empathy and being the one dude in that moment that can provide clarity and make other humans feel just a touch better
This is how we drive up (scrape what’s left of) profits and strengthen our negotiating position.
Plus, it’s just a decent thing to do.
#1330
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Joined APC: Oct 2020
Posts: 560
Lol. This is pretty much how I feel. I just had a probationary pilot ask while we are sitting there eating dinner if the captain will foot the bill for his dinner at CQ. I bought him some hot chicken in Smashville. Didn’t sit right with me wondering where next free meal comes from. Followed by “where are we going for dinner tomorrow?” I said who is we? If you want a dinner date tomorrow night call an escort, I have plans with my actual family on our next layover. So hopefully on your $100k a year salary you can find some food that fits your budget.
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