Originally Posted by JustNarced (Post 3426201)

didn't the ALPA scope compliance officer from national take a management position at Delta, on Delta's behalf, to negotiate this? .

Originally Posted by scrmhalf (Post 3426211)

I’m voting yes because I’m senior. Everyone with 10yrs or more to go should vote NO for these reasons:
-This should be part of an overall TA vote. To separate it out is stupid
-if we are voting on this separately, we need money( pay raise to go with it)
- What exactly is the benefit to pilots immediately? Not some down the road promise of growth.
- this is a total win for the company. They’ve wanted this for a long time
- just remember, DALPA negotiated the Pacific scope to replace the Nartita required slots.
after the LOA was signed, DAL shut down Narita flying and outsourced almost all of our Pacific flying
Less than 10yrs?
vote no

Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 3426240)

Bucking, Trip7, gone flying…??? I know you boys have the answer to this.

Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3426263)

wait, why are you asking me?

Originally Posted by JustNarced (Post 3426201)

So we have enough wide bodies on property and enough scheduled for delivery to fly more WB block hours than at any time in history, assuming the ER's really stay. Management's limitation is that they cannot place code on more than 40% of a foreign carrier on a route segment. Not an issue if we operate that segment. So management wants to go over 40% on a foreign carrier and that will allow Delta pilots to fly more WB block hours? It doesn't make sense to me. Haven't made up my mind, but didn't the ALPA scope compliance officer from national take a management position at Delta, on Delta's behalf, to negotiate this? How could allowing Delta to place code on 100% of a given Korean flight allow us to grow in EU? Why wouldn't we just expand in EU anyways and keep the 40% limitation in place at Korean? Especially if 321s are flying the 8.5 hour stuff out of JFK and BOS. What exactly will the WB then be flying?

I know, I jumped around a bit in there.

Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 3426270)

Thought you may know the pedigree

Originally Posted by interceptorpilo (Post 3426272)

This is pretty much what I tried to articulate on page 2 or 3. And Trip7’s response was that my comments were ridiculous and didn’t deserve a response. I asked what parts of my comments were ridiculous and he responded that my whole argument was garbage. I am almost certain I will be a NO because 1. Management shills want it and 2. It should be rolled into the whole contract.

Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 3426240)

Bucking, Trip7, gone flying…??? I know you boys have the answer to this.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 3426383)

Rick Dominguez (Desi) is one of the smartest and honest men I’ve met. He was the Exec Admin for several MEC Chairmen and two ALPA Presidents. He was effectively fired by the NWA faction of the Delta MEC and again when we failed at the BOD, losing our seats at national.

He was (and probably is) a Delta pilot advocate. He wrote much of our current Section 1. He speaks the language and in contrast to other Delta managers who probably have no idea why we want, or need, scope; Desi gets it.

He does not tolerate fools or liars. I have no idea how he views folks on our negotiating committee. I hear he is working well with them. I have a lot of respect for the man’s abilities.