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05-26-2022 | 07:45 PM

#351

Trip7

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Originally Posted by Der Meister

Then you forget all the cities that they fly to direct that we don't. All of which you can but a DAL code share on...

And what Cities are those? Add them all up. Tell me who has more. I'll wait...

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05-26-2022 | 07:56 PM

#352

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Originally Posted by Trip7

And what Cities are those? Add them all up. Tell me who has more. I'll wait...

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VS flys to 7 cities that we dont do direct international service from LHR
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Virgin_Atlantic_destinations

KLM 12 from AMS
https:/en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_KLM_destinations

AF 10 from CDG
https:/en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Air_France_destinations

05-26-2022 | 08:01 PM

#353

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Originally Posted by Der Meister

VS flys to 7 cities that we dont do direct international service from LHR

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...c_destinations

KLM 12 from AMS

https:/en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_KLM_destinations

AF 10 from CDG

https:/en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Air_France_destinations

OK this is getting dumb. So what they fly to Islamabad? Delta flies to cities in Costa Rica that KLM and VA don't and thry can "code share"

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05-26-2022 | 08:04 PM

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OK this is getting dumb. So what they fly to Islamabad? Delta flies to cities in Costa Rica that KLM and VA don't and thry can "code share"

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That's true but I don't care about the number of jobs our JVs have, I care about the number of pilots we have.... Especially the number of pilots we have flying aircraft that pay the highest rate we have... and everyone of their airplanes that fly our pax are removing the opportunity for our pilots to fly them.

05-27-2022 | 05:11 AM

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KLM started AUS-AMS service back in March and announced this week along with a sponsorship of Austin FC that the flight is going year round. VS just had its inaugural AUS-LHR flight on Wednesday.

05-27-2022 | 05:35 AM

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Not sure why anyone is surprised by JV flying more than us since we gave away scope years ago for a couple percent raise. We got a tiny bit more money to fly fewer widebodies and we voted for it. At least we get to work harder to make a little more right?

06-01-2022 | 05:24 AM

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C44 update provides some more information about the AIP

06-01-2022 | 06:02 AM

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Can you provide a bit more info on when this trade was made? Can’t recall it from contract negotiations in the past.

06-01-2022 | 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Can you provide a bit more info on when this trade was made? Can’t recall it from contract negotiations in the past.

The original virgin deal. They (Delta) quickly moved all of Virgin's capacity into the Atlantic from Asia right after the JV/scope deal was done.

06-01-2022 | 07:24 AM

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The original virgin deal. They (Delta) quickly moved all of Virgin's capacity into the Atlantic from Asia right after the JV/scope deal was done.

“can’t recall it from negotiations…..” All the sudden he can’t remember things.

2012- added dozens of 76 seaters with the “sell” of parking 50/70 seaters. That did not happen on schedule.

Pacific floor vs min weekly departures - not so good for DAL pilot

50% to 48.6 to 46% of block seats/miles/whatever they use this time

remember any of these?