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Gunfighter 05-28-2022 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by Meme In Command (Post 3430730)
Don't be ignorant. The chances of someone accomplishing what Musk did with limited resources are very small. My point was he didn't come from "nothing". He didn't start from zero. Next time you have a 4 hour sit at the Mother Ship read Outliers.

Yes, the chances are small. That is what makes him an outlier. I used to work for a billionaire who started with a $10,000 loan from his grandma, they do exist. Bezos and Buffet are other examples of billionaires who came from humble beginnings. Gates came from upper middle class parents and wealthy grandparents, so he would fit the narrative of starting with money.

I would argue that starting with minimal wealth amplifies the entrepreneurial spirit, whereas starting with wealth reduces the drive.

TegridyFarms 05-28-2022 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by interceptorpilo (Post 3431081)
Below is a quote and a link from Maye Musk, Elon’s mom. Sounds like he had limited resources to me.

I brought my kids up as a single mother with very little money, and we survived. We used to live in a rent-controlled apartment in Toronto with Elon on the couch. It took three weeks to clean, then I saved to buy $5 sheets. Eventually I bought beds, then a computer, and after that chairs – you can always work on the floor. I cut their hair, gave them mani-pedis, wore $19 shoes to walk the runway. You don’t need massages to be happy.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...ther-elon-musk

If you read about him sleeping in the office and working hard, there’s several cases of this too. However you can’t win an argument with people who think billionaires are evil.

You claim your tax credits? Mortgage interest? Donations? Write off your car registration fees? You take a deduction? Even a standard deduction…then you’re guilty of doing the same things as them, except on a much smaller scale.

Facts aren’t welcome when discussing evil corporations and billionaires. However donating to BLM and recognizing them as a legit organization is imperative. Or you are a bigot.

notEnuf 05-28-2022 01:23 PM

I knew a guy who borrowed $10K from his grandma and blew it. Much more common.

tennisguru 05-28-2022 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3431256)
I knew a guy who borrowed $10K from his grandma and blew it. Much more common.

Hey I told you that in confidence… 😜

CBreezy 05-28-2022 03:17 PM

I'm not sure why all the fan boys came running when I didn't bow at the feet of Diety Musk. I'm not arguing he isn't successful. Clearly as he's routinely in the running for richest person in the world. I said he's a loudmouth clown on social media. Being rich doesn't make you a prophet and it certainly doesn't make you a good person. History is littered with rich people who used shrewd business and labor tactics to make themselves more rich and more powerful.

Meme In Command 05-29-2022 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by interceptorpilo (Post 3431081)
Below is a quote and a link from Maye Musk, Elon’s mom. Sounds like he had limited resources to me.

I brought my kids up as a single mother with very little money, and we survived. We used to live in a rent-controlled apartment in Toronto with Elon on the couch. It took three weeks to clean, then I saved to buy $5 sheets. Eventually I bought beds, then a computer, and after that chairs – you can always work on the floor. I cut their hair, gave them mani-pedis, wore $19 shoes to walk the runway. You don’t need massages to be happy.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...ther-elon-musk

I will admit I had no idea his parents divorced and he cut his relationship with his father after him and his mother moved to Canada. I stand corrected and apologize for my comment. Learned something new today.

All 5 Stages 06-16-2022 02:11 AM

"Talks between rail labor (12 rail craft unions bargaining in two coalitions on behalf of 115k rail workers) and major railroads ... will enter a 30-day cooling period this Friday. Then the Biden administration may appoint a Presidential Emergency Board (PEB) to resolve the dispute."

Still several more steps before self-help, plus at least two more cooling-off periods.

A5S


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ticking-time-bomb-begins-major-us-railroads-union-labor-seek-biden-intervention-amid-rail

JustNarced 06-16-2022 04:04 AM


Originally Posted by All 5 Stages (Post 3441837)
"Talks between rail labor (12 rail craft unions bargaining in two coalitions on behalf of 115k rail workers) and major railroads ... will enter a 30-day cooling period this Friday. Then the Biden administration may appoint a Presidential Emergency Board (PEB) to resolve the dispute."

Still several more steps before self-help, plus at least two more cooling-off periods.

A5S


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...tion-amid-rail

We always talk about strikes, PEB, cooling off periods, etc. What I just recently discovered is that Congress can intervene on the backside of all that and force a TA.

https://library.cqpress.com/cqalmana...cqal70-1292795

boog123 06-16-2022 05:17 AM


Originally Posted by JustNarced (Post 3441854)
We always talk about strikes, PEB, cooling off periods, etc. What I just recently discovered is that Congress can intervene on the backside of all that and force a TA.

https://library.cqpress.com/cqalmana...cqal70-1292795

Has not happened in the modern airline industry ever. You wasted your time looking

DeltaboundRedux 06-16-2022 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by JustNarced (Post 3441854)
We always talk about strikes, PEB, cooling off periods, etc. What I just recently discovered is that Congress can intervene on the backside of all that and force a TA.

https://library.cqpress.com/cqalmana...cqal70-1292795

It's an interesting argument.

I don't think either party in Congress has been receptive to PUBLIC sector unions for at least 30 years, however.

Pilots making 3 or 4x's the average worker aren't a sympathetic demographic to anyone. Even other pilots, judging on the poo flinging here.


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