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JustNarced 05-26-2022 08:57 AM

Elon Musk exposed that at least 5% of all Twitter users are AI bots programmed with far-left ideology, they have not released evidence it is only 5%. About a decade ago Delta hired one of the lead executives away from Ford and Harrison, the number 1 union busting law firm in the country. The Delta MEC also shut down the ALPA web boards, which was a place pilots can discuss items under union shop. If one comes onto APC thinking management doesn't have a team of at least a dozen user accounts, working most hours around the clock, to control the message then they are delusional. Hopefully management is smart enough to pick up on the fact they are burning out pilots, SLI's and LCA that were once strong advocates. My problem with this place is that you never really know who you are talking to.

JustNarced 05-26-2022 09:02 AM

Lastly, the United States is a highly polarized powder keg. That last thing any politician has the guts to do is sound out the brown shirts to arrest 14,000 pilots, that might be a step that takes it too far.

CBreezy 05-26-2022 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by JustNarced (Post 3430048)
Elon Musk exposed that at least 5% of all Twitter users are AI bots programmed with far-left ideology, they have not released evidence it is only 5%. About a decade ago Delta hired one of the lead executives away from Ford and Harrison, the number 1 union busting law firm in the country. The Delta MEC also shut down the ALPA web boards, which was a place pilots can discuss items under union shop. If one comes onto APC thinking management doesn't have a team of at least a dozen user accounts, working most hours around the clock, to control the message then they are delusional. Hopefully management is smart enough to pick up on the fact they are burning out pilots, SLI's and LCA that were once strong advocates. My problem with this place is that you never really know who you are talking to.

The claim was that less than 5% were bots and that claim was by Twitter. Elon Musk is a loudmouth clown on social media.

RAH RAH REE 05-26-2022 10:14 AM

Republic spent 8 years in negotiations and wasn't allowed to strike. Alliegent wasn't allowed to either. Both has only around 20% of the pilots DAL has. And all this happened under supposedly the "pro worker" Obama administration.

The NMB's entire job is to keep us from striking and they will never allow it unless Delta does something so egregious that don't have a choice. And Delta isn't that stupid

Margaritaville 05-26-2022 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by RAH RAH REE (Post 3430117)
Republic spent 8 years in negotiations and wasn't allowed to strike. Alliegent wasn't allowed to either. Both has only around 20% of the pilots DAL has. And all this happened under supposedly the "pro worker" Obama administration.

The NMB's entire job is to keep us from striking and they will never allow it unless Delta does something so egregious that don't have a choice. And Delta isn't that stupid

Point of order. Allegiant tried to do an illegal strike, without being released by the NMB, and we were slapped with an injunction before anyone could even act on it. Also allegiant has a hair over 1000 pilots now. It was about 500 when that happened if I recall correctly.

Mesabah 05-26-2022 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by RAH RAH REE (Post 3430117)
Republic spent 8 years in negotiations and wasn't allowed to strike. Alliegent wasn't allowed to either. Both has only around 20% of the pilots DAL has. And all this happened under supposedly the "pro worker" Obama administration.

The NMB's entire job is to keep us from striking and they will never allow it unless Delta does something so egregious that don't have a choice. And Delta isn't that stupid

That's the correct answer, the things we would want to strike over, we'll never get released over. The only way a strike happens is if our wages are below market value for a very long time, e.g. Spirit.

clearandcold 05-26-2022 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3430002)
Where does Alaska fly that other airlines and trucks don't go?

Barrow, Bethel, Cordova, and Yakutat come to mind. If it’s winter time I believe you could include a few airports in SE AK. Delta flies to some of them but only in the summer. There are some 135’s flying around but no other 121’s.

Getting around as a passenger would be a little difficult if Alaska were to go on strike but I imagine Horizon would be subbed in fairly quickly. Alaska is already trying to move all the intra Alaska flying to them anyways. There are other true regional airlines that would likely start temp service if it was needed.

Nobody would starve as multiple cargo carriers operate in the state and regularly haul food and mail to everywhere Alaska flies.

DALFA 05-26-2022 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 3430020)
lol, then it must be true…..like having a shill pilot on here being compensated to post on social
media has never happened. Needs some names?

You caught me. Fourteen years of posting on APC and advocating for a union for flight attendants when all along i've been a management plant. Makes total sense.

Twr199 05-26-2022 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by DALFA (Post 3429757)
My post is a response to what would happen if pilots went on strike even after they were ordered back to work by the govt. Nothing to do with an IA.

So arresting them makes them get back to work how?

DALFA 05-26-2022 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Twr199 (Post 3430186)
So arresting them makes them get back to work how?

The point of arresting someone for being in contempt of court is to send a message to others who may also choose to disregard a court order. It's a punitive and dissuasive action.


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