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Old 09-03-2022 | 06:59 PM
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Anyone have the faintest idea of what the current “ask” is from our negotiation committee?

20% DOS would’ve been fantastic 3 years ago.

Now, not so much. Inflation has changed everything.
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Old 09-03-2022 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
Anyone have the faintest idea of what the current “ask” is from our negotiation committee?

20% DOS would’ve been fantastic 3 years ago.

Now, not so much. Inflation has changed everything.
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Old 09-04-2022 | 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
Anyone have the faintest idea of what the current “ask” is from our negotiation committee?

20% DOS would’ve been fantastic 3 years ago.

Now, not so much. Inflation has changed everything.
I have zero direct knowledge. Apparently, they have not even broached any specific figures yet.

However, reading between the lines of all the communications - official, intrapersonal, and at the recent picket - the status reps, negotiating chair, and the MEC chairman are all keenly aware of the 'cost' of inflation. In addition, multiple 'players' have insisted this is two contracts in one, and that gains (to include pay) will be negotiated accordingly.

My expectations are very high, to include a DOS raise approaching 30% and retro back to the amendable date that at the very least matches inflation.
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Old 09-04-2022 | 10:21 AM
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That is the reality for Regionals right now..

Horizon Air TA coming highest pay in industry

1st year Cap: Now 81.42 --> DOR 148.18 --> 151.41(23) --> 153.68 (24)


DOR = 82% raise

We sure better know what we need to do.
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Old 09-04-2022 | 02:17 PM
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Unless ALPA surprises me, I'll probably be a NO. I've voted YES once in 25 years and that was a mistake.
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Old 09-04-2022 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdaddie
Unless ALPA surprises me, I'll probably be a NO. I've voted YES once in 25 years and that was a mistake.
What would surprise you?
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Originally Posted by flyingmau5
What would surprise you?
Mesa +1% at this point
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Old 09-04-2022 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Mesa +1% at this point
You know that's a ridiculous ask, right? If a company gets a 900% raise that brings their rates up to industry average, it's loony to think you can justify also asking for a 900% raise. That isn't how economics or capitalism or reality work.
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Old 09-04-2022 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg
Well…this thread escalated quickly.

Back to the topic, 30% and 20% should be the min going forward.

Honestly the 30% feels low, and unless the IRS bumps up the company’s contribution limits, anything over 20% feels like negotiating a back door pay raise to the first number.

All the excess from the 25% will flow into the MBCBP .
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Old 09-04-2022 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
You know that's a ridiculous ask, right? If a company gets a 900% raise that brings their rates up to industry average, it's loony to think you can justify also asking for a 900% raise. That isn't how economics or capitalism or reality work.
x +1% is that company's rate and then 1% added, not their gain ratio plus.
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