“Management aced it”

We aren't dumb enough.

Fixing the root cause would require self-examination by management. They are either unable or unwilling to see their own hand in trying to run too lean, so naturally it must be because of something the pilots are doing. Eliminating PB days for reserves and paying GS at higher rates would just enable the company to run the operation further into the ditch. They would convince themselves that they would always have reserves for all scheduled LC days, enabling even thinner manning, still award GS to reserves and run them until they hit the fatigue wall or max out FAR 117 limits. Then a new round of recriminations pointed at pilots.

What’s the incentive for a reserve to pick up a greenslip at single pay with no payback days? Working yourself to death? I’m too tired after 5 days of being used on reserve to think a bout a greenslip without some time off.


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I personally know someone who credited 300+ hours but have yet to meet a 400 let alone a 500 hour credit Demi-god. But I assume they are using plenty of PB days that were earned in previous months so although they are getting extremely high credits in a single month some of the work was actually performed in other months. Nonetheless it is extremely impressive.

The reason all Delta Pilots should be concerned about managements push to eliminate payback days is because it indicates they plan on running the airline short of Pilots. If we were properly manned this would not be an issue. IMHO this foreshadows many years of negative reserve coverage in many fleets.

Finally, if we as a Pilot group were brain dead enough to agree to such a foul and malevolent pact, it would affect the whole Pilot group. Many senior Pilots bidding reserve would quickly switch to line holder and we would more closely resemble UAL and AAL where reserve is heavily weighted to junior Pilots.

Just my 2 cents

Scoop

It’s not going to be at single pay. They would probably pay double if no payback days. That being said I’m on the don’t change anything side. They can fix it themselves with better staffing.

yeah not only is this an auto one item NO from me, it’s showing us how they want to staff in the future. Rolling thunder is entirely their making and if they decide to properly staff the categories it won’t be a thing at all.

There’s currently a 330 A in the mid 700s for September.

I don’t need anyone to do the math on it. I’ve seen the schedules/time cards. I merely suggested that this type of playing the PB game is perhaps one reason why the company wants to change the rules.

More power to the pilots able to pull these schedules off.

That is incorrect. Our reserve system may not be built for 70% monthly trip construction of 6-7 day trips. But all these trips could be 3 or 4 days and work fine.