A350-1000 and other Fleet News
09-25-2023, 07:11 AM
#1001
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: stake holder ir.delta.com
Posts: 10,034
Originally Posted by nene
Not sure what you want from the company? They served pdx-nrt for years and operated a quasi hub from nrt. The game has changed and after getting the route initially approved the company obviously feels it can’t make money on that route. Without a Japanese partner it’s hard to justify a wide body from pdx-hnd. They asked to switch slot to one of our hubs to be able to fill a wide body. DOT says no, lose money or give up slot. Delta says ok it’s your slot. Not sure why you’d want your company to lose money on a route because the govt says pdx or bust. These kinds of deals are way the airlines spend $$$millions annually greasing the skids of DC.
09-25-2023, 09:10 AM
#1002
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Joined APC: Mar 2023
Posts: 38
A350 has had a resurgence this year, certainly makes negotiating harder. Probably had a better shot at a good deal last year if they went and signed on the dotted line when first rumored.
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/air-fran...rder-1.1976027
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/air-fran...rder-1.1976027
09-25-2023, 10:23 AM
#1003
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Posts: 1,642
Originally Posted by Cranberry
A350 has had a resurgence this year, certainly makes negotiating harder. Probably had a better shot at a good deal last year if they went and signed on the dotted line when first rumored.
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/air-fran...rder-1.1976027
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/air-fran...rder-1.1976027
09-25-2023, 11:37 AM
#1004
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Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 840
Originally Posted by Cranberry
A350 has had a resurgence this year, certainly makes negotiating harder. Probably had a better shot at a good deal last year if they went and signed on the dotted line when first rumored.
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/air-fran...rder-1.1976027
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/air-fran...rder-1.1976027
09-25-2023, 11:49 AM
#1005
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 330 B
Posts: 1,610
Originally Posted by firstmob
With all the latest A350 orders does this put Boeing back into the picture ie B787-10 & B777x?
Last edited by Tinpusher007; 09-25-2023 at 12:00 PM.
09-25-2023, 11:51 AM
#1006
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Position: 7ERA
Posts: 1,216
Originally Posted by Cranberry
A350 has had a resurgence this year, certainly makes negotiating harder. Probably had a better shot at a good deal last year if they went and signed on the dotted line when first rumored.
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/air-fran...rder-1.1976027
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/air-fran...rder-1.1976027
09-25-2023, 11:56 AM
#1007
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Position: 330 B
Posts: 1,610
Originally Posted by Cranberry
A350 has had a resurgence this year, certainly makes negotiating harder. Probably had a better shot at a good deal last year if they went and signed on the dotted line when first rumored.
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/air-fran...rder-1.1976027
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/air-fran...rder-1.1976027
09-25-2023, 12:03 PM
#1008
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Originally Posted by firstmob
With all the latest A350 orders does this put Boeing back into the picture ie B787-10 & B777x?
09-25-2023, 01:03 PM
#1009
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Posts: 4,461
Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
I believe the 787-10 has a very good shot of joining our fleet one of these days. When the time comes, it would seem an optimal replacement for our A333s. Perhaps the company is waiting for the MTOW increase first. I personally believe the 787-10 is a matter of when, not if. As far as the 777X, I'd say highly doubtful. DL doesn't seem to like big, long haul wide bodies and that thing is huge. It's a wonder they have publicly admitted to wanting the A351 and look how long thats taking. The whales were an inherited exception that came from the merger but even they were not replaced with anything close to their size.
Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
The 787 continues to be a hot seller as well. Ed has said before that the most important consideration when placing an order is, unsurprisingly, price. And Delta likes paying peanuts for planes. Mgt seems unfazed by the potential delivery timeline of any potential order negatively affecting us by multiple airlines placing significant orders for the exact aircraft we claim to be looking at. I wouldn't put it past them to continue flying the 7ER fleet for another decade and do the same with the 330 fleet if they dont get the price they want.
09-25-2023, 01:09 PM
#1010
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Joined APC: May 2015
Position: A350 Both
Posts: 7,292
I'm telling you Boeing diehards... once you fly a long haul flight without having to sit sideways to eat your meals you will never again want to fly anything with a yoke again. I was a NeverBus guy... until I wasn't.
