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OOfff 09-30-2022 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg (Post 3504445)
If you think pilots are PO’d right now, let’s see how everyone feels after October 13th. That’s when they release Q3 results and give an updated outlook for this year and next year.

I fully expect to see mid teens on the operating margin with about $1.5 billion profit. As capacity comes back to pre-pandemic levels, the operating costs will normalize and the margin will increase into the high teens.

I see $8 billion a real possibility in 2023.

3q will be delta’s highest revenue quarter ever

Scooter432 09-30-2022 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3504457)
3q will be delta’s highest revenue quarter ever

This is correct as EB gloated about this during the Lcp meeting early in the week.

The money is there to pay us properly.

vote and bring it up with every pilot you fly with.

sailingfun 09-30-2022 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by thinkstraight (Post 3504234)
30 days seems excessive. My only guess it still gives the company time to come around.

You need to vote yes. There are months if not years for the company to come around but the vote tally needs to be in and strong. A yes vote does not mean a strike. You are simply giving the union authorization to declare a strike. Before anything else the mediator must release us to self help. After that a 30 day cooling off period at a minimum. Probably a PEB after the cooling off.

20Fathoms 09-30-2022 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3504471)
You need to vote yes. There are months if not years for the company to come around but the vote tally needs to be in and strong. A yes vote does not mean a strike. You are simply giving the union authorization to declare a strike. Before anything else the mediator must release us to self help. After that a 30 day cooling off period at a minimum. Probably a PEB after the cooling off.

PEB!! PEB!!! PEB!!!! Fixed it for ya :D

TED74 09-30-2022 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by Milk Man (Post 3504223)
Can someone please explain the process of a strike. So we vote yes to strike then what are the sequence of events thereafter? And just because we vote in favor of strike, is their a process then in which it has to be approved?

Seek out DALPA’s Engage podcast and listen to every episode, starting with the most recent.

tunes 09-30-2022 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by 172skychicken (Post 3504433)
Reading between the lines, it seems that retro might be the main sticking point. Sounds like the company didn't offer much of anything there.


It’s a lot more than that……


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TED74 09-30-2022 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3504429)
Plus, it is very ambiguous of them to call their proposal "industry leading", since all the majors are at basically the same rates. A simple 5% DOS would put us on "top" of the industry...

Sure, but the pilot group isn’t smart enough to know that. Or at least that’s what the company insinuates EACH and EVERY TIME they put ridiculously false and disingenuous information out to the masses.

I honestly can’t believe how many pilots are bending over backwards for an employer that continually bends us over. Have a little self respect, my brothers and sisters!

TED74 09-30-2022 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3504457)
3q will be delta’s highest revenue quarter ever

Just imagine how high it could have been had the operation been properly manned!

[What’s a SIL?]

OOfff 09-30-2022 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 3504501)
Sure, but the pilot group isn’t smart enough to know that. Or at least that’s what the company insinuates EACH and EVERY TIME they put ridiculously false and disingenuous information out to the masses.

I honestly can’t believe how many pilots are bending over backwards for an employer that continually bends us over. Have a little self respect, my brothers and sisters!

for me, it’s not about bending over backwards to help anyone except my own pocket. I take them for every dime I can get, for my own selfish purposes

Nantonaku 09-30-2022 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg (Post 3504445)
If you think pilots are PO’d right now, let’s see how everyone feels after October 13th. That’s when they release Q3 results and give an updated outlook for this year and next year.

I fully expect to see mid teens on the operating margin with about $1.5 billion profit. As capacity comes back to pre-pandemic levels, the operating costs will normalize and the margin will increase into the high teens.

I see $8 billion a real possibility in 2023.

That would be nice but have you been following the economic news lately? The world economy is literally breaking as we speak, the British pension system just got what amounts to a margin call. Did you see the inflation numbers in the Netherlands? China housing loans put the US 2008 ordeal to shame. Russia is literally threatening to use a "tactical" nuclear weapon which is 200 times stronger than the bomb dropped in Hiroshima. The US Federal Reserve is years behind the curve in their tightening. They have straight out said expect pain. I hope I'm wrong but I don't see the economy supporting those kinds of numbers. I'm just hoping we get through the year with small profits and no downsizing. We saw how quickly things can change for the good and bad during Covid. The economy could wreck us this next year.


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