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hockeypilot44 09-30-2022 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by PilotBases (Post 3504738)
You’d think someone who went through UNA would be a bit more ready to go.

No kidding. That didn’t even occur to me. He was ****ed off that I even mentioned his hat and lack of lanyard. I just walked away. It’s his right to support the company instead of union. I don’t agree with it, but it is what it is.

JamesBond 09-30-2022 07:58 PM

Yep..... Was there any other choice?

Wolf424 09-30-2022 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3504676)
I hope you did it in Costa Rica.


Missed opportunity…I should’ve waited until the next time I was on an intl trip

OpsCheckOK 09-30-2022 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 3504501)
Sure, but the pilot group isn’t smart enough to know that. Or at least that’s what the company insinuates EACH and EVERY TIME they put ridiculously false and disingenuous information out to the masses.

I honestly can’t believe how many pilots are bending over backwards for an employer that continually bends us over. Have a little self respect, my brothers and sisters!

Yep. And there’s plenty of probationary pilots on their new hire chat groups fawning over all of the green slip opportunities. You can’t vote (going hatless and the lanyard are not necessarily expected either), so for Gods sake how about doing your part by at least taking your days off for yourself or family instead of the company. I know that everyone has different circumstances, but try thinking long term/big picture!

game 09-30-2022 09:27 PM

VOTED: IN FAVOR (YES!!)

It’s a (really) bad look when you drag your feet at our negotiating table while simultaneously boasting $150,000 in bonuses to each Endeavor New Hire Pilot.

Casualinterest 09-30-2022 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by OpsCheckOK (Post 3504780)
Yep. And there’s plenty of probationary pilots on their new hire chat groups fawning over all of the green slip opportunities. You can’t vote (going hatless and the lanyard are not necessarily expected either), so for Gods sake how about doing your part by at least taking your days off for yourself or family instead of the company. I know that everyone has different circumstances, but try thinking long term/big picture!

Devil's advocate, but after 5k per month and $91/hr, GS's might be the difference between debt and stability to a lot of new hires. It's funny though, I pointed that out to someone who was like, well I could afford to live fine on it 10 years ago, and the irony of not recognizing what inflation has done to a new hire's financial state was completely lost on him.

TED74 09-30-2022 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by Casualinterest (Post 3504789)
Devil's advocate, but after 5k per month and $91/hr, GS's might be the difference between debt and stability to a lot of new hires. It's funny though, I pointed that out to someone who was like, well I could afford to live fine on it 10 years ago, and the irony of not recognizing what inflation has done to a new hire's financial state was completely lost on him.

Striking doesn’t pay as well as scabbing either. Apples and oranges of course, but a debt-free seniority list isn’t the goal of our association at the moment.

chrisreedrules 09-30-2022 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 3504801)
Striking doesn’t pay as well as scabbing either. Apples and oranges of course, but a debt-free seniority list isn’t the goal of our association at the moment.

Most new hires (myself included) are eating through savings to make first year doable. More so now due to inflation increasing the cost of almost everything by 20%+. I’m an adult with responsibilities like kids and an aging parent I care for. Eating through savings while staring at a possibly nasty recession next year that may very well lead to furloughs. So eat through savings on probation and then face furlough with no money… Or eat through less savings on probation by picking up Green Slips (a negotiated contractual provision) and have some money for a potential furlough. Want to fix the issue of new hire pilots picking up Green Slips? Fix first year pay. It’s abysmal. And raising it to $100 /hour first year to be in parity with what regional FOs are now making is a joke too.

And for the record I haven’t even been picking up Green Slips. But I certainly don’t fault those who do.

Jaww 10-01-2022 03:22 AM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 3504804)
And for the record I haven’t even been picking up Green Slips. But I certainly don’t fault those who do.

I don’t do them anymore and that is my choice. I am done helping out but I’m also a captain and don’t need the extra flying as my pay and lifestyle are in check.

I 100% understand YOUR decision and harbor you no ill will for utilizing the PWA to you benefit. I would be doing the same. There are others the greenslip discussion this is more likely directed at so pay it no mind.

Crown 10-01-2022 03:24 AM


Originally Posted by Johnnychimpo (Post 3504427)
no idea, but that’s the “negotiating update” from the company. Classic.

If they literally say 1% > pay rates than Alaska while changing nothing, they’re not lying. But that’s the conundrum they find themselves in. That’s the hubris of this management. They still think it’s just a small group of Chit Chatters that the union is catering to. That’s why this strike vote is so crucial. If we show them 97-98% authorize a strike…tough to fly planes with 2% of the pilots


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