This is why I've never understood people who have such an aversion to discussing pay or why there is such a stigma around it. If more people talked about their income, there would be more power in the hands of the employee over the employer? Maybe it's because my entire career, anyone could quickly and easily see what I made, so it's never been an issue...even when I made crap pay. If I lost a friend over this, I'd say good riddance, they clearly weren't a friend anyway. I don't shun my friend for the cost of the product that his company provides (which I may buy), because I see that he owns 5 or 6 planes, including a turboprop. Idk, people are weird. Probably a good thing that most of my close friends are squadron mates/fellow airline guys lol.

Either way, 100% agree with the rest of your post.

Yes!

Fights on

Authorization in! It's going to get real. About time.

Look forward to it. When someone says I make too much, I simply offer the next landing. Everyone thinks they can be a pilot, but there seems to be a shortage around here lately.

Let's go. In favor, and I'm ready to wait for the contract we deserve and have earned.

Only vote to strike if you actually want anything approaching a decent contract. Consider maybe just letting the ceiling of the profession slowly drift down. As you climb the ladder you'll probably barely even notice all those top rungs missing.

Of course they aren’t in the same Galaxy. I give folks the benefit of the doubt that they know that. I fly a few green slips each year myself. I’m sorry I compared two fruits instead of a fruit and a gearbox.

My point was simply that making a difference sometimes requires making hard decisions and it could require some personal sacrifice. Sometimes short term sacrifices have long-term payoffs. First year pay comes as no surprise to anyone who has eyeballed Delta as a potential employer, and it certainly doesn’t last forever. I’m pretty sure everyone here has experienced first year pay. We get it.

A strike vote is not a hard decision. Deciding one “would” run into a burning building to save someone is not a hard decision. The odds are that none of us will actually have to strike, or run into proverbial buildings.

Breaking a GS or WS-to-FAR-limits addiction could actually be a little painful for some and admittedly change/add financial pressure to the family budget. Some will break it anyway.

Take a look at the rates of fatigue calls here. They’re WAY up. They didn’t go up when rotations and monthly schedules got more fatiguing…they only went way up when all of the hard parts of fatiguing out were removed. There’s now no paperwork required and there’s zero financial risk. Only after those changes were made did more folks start making the right decision not to operate airplanes full of people when their brains were operating in a state equivalent to drunkenness.

I wish we could all do what’s best for ourselves and our families with complete disregard for the association because the former doesn’t affect the latter. That simply isn’t reality. And of course we CAN do whatever we want…but don’t expect the same end state as compared to circumstances where we all at least consider what’s good for the group in addition to what’s good for the individual.

(Pictorial) thanks for this!

Non-airline friend of mine back in ATL called me yesterday to inquire about our “upcoming strike”. Apparently the media there have made mention of it. And so it begins…

I'm a probie too, so I was in the same boat. The union put out a very informative podcast which addresses the strike vote, and a lot of specifics for new hires. I'd recommend giving that a listen.