When I was hired Delta had a DFW, MIA, and BOS base. No jumpseat and non-rev cost $15 per segment for employees with less than 10yrs of service. All reserves sat short call twice a day. So no, nobody commuted really. But now the world revolves around the commuter and their problems, or "post-PSC issues" as the thread starter says. Yes, the airline is probably going to shut down without the best and brightest new hires. Can you say "entitled"?

... and stay off my lawn!

Any word on F/A commute issues?

Tell me more about the $15/segment non-rev fee. I spend more on rental cars to/from alternate airports. Ready to just pay a small fee to up the ante on non-rev stability/predictability.

The non-rev fee later changed to $8 per segment and then finally changed to free for everyone.... right when I got 10yrs of service. Figures. That's an idea though, charge a fee for PSC. No way the FA's would like that I'll bet. And PSC is all about the FAs, not the pilots.

Im not going to say my price point, but charging a PSC fee specifically to/from work puts the burden squarely on the commuters, encourages lower-earning employees to live in base, and probably improves leisure non-rev availability/predictability. Not worth a penny of negotiating capital, tho.

This would be in addition to the current commuter policy.

And the pendulum has swung! Good lord some people want you to have it just as bad as they did.

Bad?

Negotiate every improvement we can get from the contract and let me pay, IDK, $69 at my own discretion to guarantee a seat to work on the flight I want. I spend way more money/time driving to work.

Keep commuter policy as is, with this as an additional option. Maybe it catches on, maybe it doesn’t. No way should we give up anything for PSC. If this holiday weekend (busiest ever?) was any indication, the company ain’t gonna extend goodwill on PSC (although I think they actually want it).

I’ve been here less than 10 years, but we all know our contract has eroded. Get us every penny/improvement we can get and let me spend my money how I choose, which may include a guaranteed ride to work on my schedule for a “PSC fee.”

You know what, I totally misread. I read it as nonrev for a fee. Not sure I’m in on your pay for PSC trial balloon, but it’s interesting. PSC will be the norm as soon as one airline or air line approves it. The dominoes will fall. That said, I know how to commute and will easily keep doing it. I want nothing given away for PSC.

"Eroded" compared to what? A couple of posts earlier was literally discussing an earlier era with no JS, no commuter policy, $15 per segment charge for non revving via the traditional standby process, and twice a day short calls for reserves. To be fair he also mentioned having more pilot bases, so there were fewer pilots who commuted, percentage wise.

But next to the "erosion" we have also improved many things, commuting rules and opportunities being one of the major improvements.

As soon as you pay for a PS seat… guess what? Everyone pays to guarantee and nonrev turns into buddy pass. Technically available but functionally dead.

I actually think just the opposite. Through the lens of 12-year pilot pay, sure. Nominal fee makes sense. First year f/a, or even pilot pay? Relative to hourly rates, pay-for-PSC doesn’t make sense. Then there’s the cheapo pilot mentality that’ll leave 8 hours before report to fly free and save the $$.

I think this would actually open up non-revving a bit.