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Scooter432 11-07-2022 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3528200)
We shall see, wait for thanksgiving week. That will tell the tale.


I’ll be on vacation thankfully. I hope for all its a meltdown, but I doubt it will.

JulesWinfield 11-07-2022 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by Shakinthefat (Post 3527972)
Wow. Just crunching the numbers $250/hr for 10 yr Spirit Capt at 75 hrs a month is 225k. So 400k is quite a bit of premium pay. Good for them.

The 400k+ guys are sim instructors who never fly and spend 10 hours a day in the sim.

Gone Flying 11-07-2022 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by Shakinthefat (Post 3527972)
Wow. Just crunching the numbers $250/hr for 10 yr Spirit Capt at 75 hrs a month is 225k. So 400k is quite a bit of premium pay. Good for them.

NK has some great rules and one of them is when schedules open, 75% of days MUST be green to drop, regardless of actual reserve coverage.

I have a few friends at spirit and more than one regularly drops his entire (or close to it) schedule and just flies premium.

ancman 11-07-2022 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3527993)
RDU is seasonal, flight attendants can fly any equipment so seasonal changes can be accommodated. The situation with pilots is quite different so I am surprised you are trying to make a comparison. I think SFO was closed. The cost to the company is not having a CP and staff it’s the training issues involved in equipment changes. Displacements, paid moves ect.. get expensive. That does not even get into the reserve issue but ask a VB based flight attendant about it if you want a earful!

Those costs are only incurred if the company chooses to close or displace from the new categories, just like any other category in our current system. There are plenty of small categories throughout the system right now. From a cost perspective, these new bases would be nothing more than another set of small categories.

It all requires a paradigm shift away from the old way of thinking within Flight Ops management. They would first need to acknowledge the need to make Delta more appealing to future new hires. I don’t see it happening with the current group.

Scooter432 11-28-2022 03:59 AM

Well, here we are after a major holiday. It appears little to no disruption. I guess lack of positive space commuting made little operational difference sadly.

We don’t know how many sicked out or showed up late, but overall not nearly the chaos many expected on here.

Tanker1497 11-28-2022 04:37 AM

Correct. PSC not worth giving up one cent for.

StartngOvr 11-28-2022 04:52 AM

One thing I’ve noticed since PSC ended is numerous listed jumpseaters no show. When I see a listing and no one boards I like to go up to check with the gate agent and look around. Showed the name to an agent in PBI the other day. She knew the guy and told me “oh yeah, he was here. Left on an earlier flight.” He never cancelled his listing.

I’m not a commuter, but if I was this would annoy me.

game 11-28-2022 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by StartngOvr (Post 3538481)
One thing I’ve noticed since PSC ended is numerous listed jumpseaters no show. When I see a listing and no one boards I like to go up to check with the gate agent and look around. Showed the name to an agent in PBI the other day. She knew the guy and told me “oh yeah, he was here. Left on an earlier flight.” He never cancelled his listing.

I’m not a commuter, but if I was this would annoy me.

Unless there is a punishment for this kind of behavior, pilots will keep doing it because selfishness.

PilotJ3 11-28-2022 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by StartngOvr (Post 3538481)
One thing I’ve noticed since PSC ended is numerous listed jumpseaters no show. When I see a listing and no one boards I like to go up to check with the gate agent and look around. Showed the name to an agent in PBI the other day. She knew the guy and told me “oh yeah, he was here. Left on an earlier flight.” He never cancelled his listing.

I’m not a commuter, but if I was this would annoy me.

Which is illegal on his part. I’m a commuter and it’s important to cancel if you make any changes.

I does annoy me, because that means I probably took an earlier flight to go to home or a later going back because someone double listed.

Abouttime2fish 11-28-2022 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by StartngOvr (Post 3538481)
One thing I’ve noticed since PSC ended is numerous listed jumpseaters no show. When I see a listing and no one boards I like to go up to check with the gate agent and look around. Showed the name to an agent in PBI the other day. She knew the guy and told me “oh yeah, he was here. Left on an earlier flight.” He never cancelled his listing.

I’m not a commuter, but if I was this would annoy me.

As a commuter, this scenario happens often especially going home. You reserve JS on the safe turn time, but get in early and manage to make one flight earlier. In the past I always asked the agent to cancel my later reservation and left it at that.

commuting in last night. Traffic was light, realized I was going to make earlier flight so got that JS. Then couldn’t figure out how to cancel the other reservation on MiCrew! So here is my PSA -

on MiCrew, select jumpseats at bottom. Select booked top center. Now slide the reservation right, just like you do getting a flight plan.

it’s a new change I believe. Plus, I may not be boomer old, but all this new tech moves way faster than I care to keep up with!


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