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Old 11-06-2022 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
When Alaska pilots commute to/from work they get to use their equivalent of S1 priority and go ahead of leisure non-revs. Why can't we at least do that here?

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Old 11-06-2022 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
When Alaska pilots commute to/from work they get to use their equivalent of S1 priority and go ahead of leisure non-revs. Why can't we at least do that here?
How dare you suggest such a thing? Don’t you know that would abrogate seniority?

It’ll be a cold day in hell before a more junior pilot going to/from work gets higher priority than a boomer going to/from vacation.
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Old 11-06-2022 | 05:07 PM
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I don’t see the company ever giving positive space commuting again. It’s about inventory and revenue production. 40000 employees taking up seats whenever they want isn’t going to happen. Getting to work has always been the employees problem and non revenue travel has always been “just in case” there’s a seat left. Payload optimization and a fattening public aren’t helping. Jumpseats have always been the seats available for commuting and I don’t see it changing. FAs and pilots have seats available to them for confirmed seats to and from work. It worked before and it will work in the future. The company doesn’t care about QOL or ease of commuting when it’s put up against revenue generation.
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Old 11-06-2022 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
I don’t see the company ever giving positive space commuting again. It’s abou inventory and revenue production. 45000 employees taking up seats whenever they want isn’t going to happen. Getting to work has always been the employees problem and non revenue travel has always been “just in case” there’s a seat left. Payload optimization and a fattening public aren’t helping. Jumpseats have always been the seats available for commuting and I don’t see it changing. FAs and pilots have seats available to them for confirmed seats to and from work. It worked before and it will work in the future. The company doesn’t care about QOL or ease of commuting when it’s put up against revenue generation.
100% agreed.

Also, I don’t want the union wasting any effort whatsoever on negotiating for PSC.
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Old 11-06-2022 | 05:46 PM
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3527639[/url]]I don’t see the company ever giving positive space commuting again. It’s about inventory and revenue production. 40000 employees taking up seats whenever they want isn’t going to happen. Getting to work has always been the employees problem and non revenue travel has always been “just in case” there’s a seat left. Payload optimization and a fattening public aren’t helping. Jumpseats have always been the seats available for commuting and I don’t see it changing. FAs and pilots have seats available to them for confirmed seats to and from work. It worked before and it will work in the future. The company doesn’t care about QOL or ease of commuting when it’s put up against revenue generation.
Id rather see our 6 S2 passes per travel beneficiary turn into positive space passes with the ability to use them as long as a seat is open on travel net. Since pilots would want to save them I imagine most would Jumpseat or nonrev to save their passes for leisure, but they would help the commuters in a pinch.
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Old 11-06-2022 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jaxsurf
100% agreed.

Also, I don’t want the union wasting any effort whatsoever on negotiating for PSC.

Thank you for your support. And I don’t want the union wasting any effort whatsoever on negotiating for better medical coverage.

Simple enough right? Somethings you don’t give a flying crap about, some things I don’t.


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Old 11-06-2022 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bode
And I don’t want the union wasting any effort whatsoever on negotiating for better medical coverage.
The company will start PSC if and when it benefits them, not before. If we give things up in order to secure PSC, we will have given those things up for nothing.

It’s not the same for medical coverage. I don’t use Delta’s medical insurance either, but I know that it sucks balls and needs to be improved.
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Old 11-07-2022 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by jaxsurf
The company will start PSC if and when it benefits them, not before. If we give things up in order to secure PSC, we will have given those things up for nothing.

It’s not the same for medical coverage. I don’t use Delta’s medical insurance either, but I know that it sucks balls and needs to be improved.
Just to be clear. We already have PSC. You just have to attempt to commute on a prior flight.
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Old 11-07-2022 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Just to be clear. We already have PSC. You just have to attempt to commute on a prior flight.
You know it to be an indisputable fact that they will book you a seat 100% of the time on your second option?
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Old 11-07-2022 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jaxsurf
You know it to be an indisputable fact that they will book you a seat 100% of the time on your second option?
Indisputable, no. Any time I’ve had to ask, yes.
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