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Old 11-05-2022 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jaxsurf
It really is dumb. PSC does not erode anyone’s seniority. Everyone still gets on as a non-rev according to their date of hire.

Also, it blows my mind that people who make upwards of $200k/year don’t just buy tickets. We even have a discounted option! You know what our loads are like, you’re making the conscious choice to do that to yourself.

Stop being such cheapskates. It’s pathetic and embarrassing hearing highly compensated pilots whine about nonrevving. It’s like seeing boomers scream at fast food employees for getting their order slightly wrong. Embarrassing.
Exactly. Buy a ticket. Keep the stress out of it. Your glory days of FC vacations left decades ago. Talk about tone def.

We can talk about to from work all you want, but complaining you couldn’t go on vacation because someone had to get to work is silly.
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Old 11-05-2022 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Weird, time after time I had pilots and flight attendants with months or a year or two with the company riding in EC or First and I was sitting in a middle coach seat. Seemed like I was getting screwed.

At least you got on. I’ve had my family members bumped completely for PSC commuters going out with three empty jumpseats. (2 cockpit, 1 cabin). Can someone explain why I should support that as a (currently) non-commuter?

The “cheapskate” argument holds no water. If you’re not buying tickets to commute to and from work you’re a cheapskate too. In fact, buying tickets to work should be all that much easier with the income taxes you’re saving down there in FLA!
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Old 11-05-2022 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by StartngOvr
At least you got on. I’ve had my family members bumped completely for PSC commuters going out with three empty jumpseats. (2 cockpit, 1 cabin). Can someone explain why I should support that as a (currently) non-commuter?

The “cheapskate” argument holds no water. If you’re not buying tickets to commute to and from work you’re a cheapskate too. In fact, buying tickets to work should be all that much easier with the income taxes you’re saving down there in FLA!
Because your family members won't be working a flight for delta. While the employees will be.
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Old 11-05-2022 | 08:22 AM
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Barring the instance of the OP having a base closed on them, I can only laugh. You signed a contract knowing you were going to commute. Kinda goofy to turn it into a one item no vote.
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Old 11-05-2022 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn
For my route, fares right now are about 3 to $400 one way. That's close to 3k month. That really adds up as an FO. Also, doesn't work too well if on reserve.
I’m not sure where the mixup is, but I never advocated buying a ticket to work.

I purely meant nonrev on personal time. I would never buy a ticket to work. I’d just use the policy, and if they don’t bump a paying passenger off, then so be it. If they take me off the rotation with no pay, fine; I’ll enjoy my time off.
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Old 11-05-2022 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Der Meister
Because your family members won't be working a flight for delta. While the employees will be.
When I was commuting to work I'd often offer to take the jump seat so they non-revs could get on. That's the considerate thing to do.
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Old 11-05-2022 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawaii50
Non-reving has always been one of the benefits with this job, a long time before you or I got here. Sorry it embarrasses you (apparently twice in this paragraph). Too bad you didn't mention how embarrassing it was at your interview.
The act of nonrevving is not embarrassing.

Screeching about non getting on or not getting first class is what’s embarrassing. At no point in time has nonrevving been a guaranteed seat. It has ALWAYS been a game of roulette.

Nonrevving never came up once during my interview, nor did it ever come up in my personal calculus for taking this job. With how full flights are (even prior to COVID), it’s barely a perk. I treat it as a gamble, and when I have specific events to make it to, I buy a ticket like a normal person who is capable of making risk management decisions. I don’t go onto the internet and whine about seniority.
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Old 11-05-2022 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Part of the benefits of working for an airline is travel. That benefit was part of the compensation. My family probably gets $15-20000 in travel a year. If I get that amount in cash, I’ll buy tickets. Until then I’ll embarrass myself all over the world.
Nonrevving is not embarrassing. Acting like you’re guaranteed a seat and being put off when you don’t make it on is what’s embarrassing.

It has ALWAYS been a gamble, never a guarantee. Prove me wrong.
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Old 11-05-2022 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ebl14
With logic like this, you rich pilots should just buy your tickets to work! Every other $200k a year job requires you to live near the office.
No, that is an incredibly stupid suggestion.
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Old 11-05-2022 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by StartngOvr
At least you got on. I’ve had my family members bumped completely for PSC commuters going out with three empty jumpseats. (2 cockpit, 1 cabin). Can someone explain why I should support that as a (currently) non-commuter?

The “cheapskate” argument holds no water. If you’re not buying tickets to commute to and from work you’re a cheapskate too. In fact, buying tickets to work should be all that much easier with the income taxes you’re saving down there in FLA!
3 times I’ve moved to a JS to get a non rev on. My commute flight is short, and a JS is often better than a middle seat in steerage anyway. I doubt I’m the only pilot willing to do this. Of course it’s up the gate agents to ask.
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