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jaxsurf 11-05-2022 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 3526745)
A family of four who is able to make two non-rev domestic trips a year could easily save $5,000 in ticket costs that year. That’s 3.5% of his total take-home pay for the year - just on airfare.

You find it embarrassing that one would be conscious of this expenditure, and lament a degradation of their historic non-rev benefit?

Personally, I periodically shop internet rates, cell phone rates, home and auto insurance rates, pay attention to gas price differences, negotiate large purchases…all for less savings than $5,000/year. Never thought I was an embarrassing cheapskate, but I’ll take it under advisement.

Great that you’ve been able to use that perk - WHEN IT WORKS OUT. It’s never been a guarantee that you’ll make it onboard, NEVER.

If you want to lament something that’s actually had the biggest degradation on nonrevving, blame overbooking. We sell more tickets than we have seats for, how is that right to do? :rolleyes:

Also, ability to go standby on an earlier flight also hurts the odds of successfully nonrevving. Blaming fellow crew for trying to get to work is asinine, and embarrassing.

PotatoChip 11-05-2022 08:47 AM

When I was single, way back in the 2000’s, and a lowly regional FO, I nonrevved all over the world. In one year I calculated that my nonrev tickets valued about $40,000. (I went to several international locations in FC, including Australia). That’s more money than I made that year, gross.
It’s a huge benefit. Maybe not to everyone, but definitely to some. I still use nonrev benefits with my family. I don’t nonrev during the middle of summer, I plan accordingly. I just went to the UK for a week, nonrev, for free. There were over 100 seats open. It’s a great benefit. I’m not ashamed of saving $1,000 plus. I paid $12 for a bag of chocolates for the FAs. It was a good trade.
I don’t commute anymore, because commuting sucks. And believe it or not, even commuting is a privilege.

Jaww 11-05-2022 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by Airfix (Post 3526853)
When I was commuting to work I'd often offer to take the jump seat so they non-revs could get on. That's the considerate thing to do.

Me too, all the time. Usually, ATL gate agents didn’t care and said they didn’t want to deal with it. I have no problems sitting in a jumpseat to get others on. In fact, if there are standbys I agree it should be (should have been) required. I’ve even done it on a vacation to get a SkyWest pilot home. Those of us that commute know the unwritten rules of courtesy.

GogglesPisano 11-05-2022 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3526811)
Exactly. Buy a ticket. Keep the stress out of it. Your glory days of FC vacations left decades ago. .

I nonrev to DUB twice a year with the fam. 75% of the time we're in D1. Costs about $100 in taxes. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.

jaxsurf 11-05-2022 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by StartngOvr (Post 3526812)
The “cheapskate” argument holds no water. If you’re not buying tickets to commute to and from work you’re a cheapskate too. In fact, buying tickets to work should be all that much easier with the income taxes you’re saving down there in FLA!

You’re comparing an active employee trying to get to WORK, with a FAMILY MEMBER trying to go on vacation?

Not exactly apples to apples :rolleyes:

Employees traveling to/from work should always have priority over any other nonrev travel, period. (In my opinion)

jaxsurf 11-05-2022 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by Airfix (Post 3526853)
When I was commuting to work I'd often offer to take the jump seat so they non-revs could get on. That's the considerate thing to do.

Absolutely agreed. I list for the jumpseat in the first place, for this reason.

jaxsurf 11-05-2022 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by PotatoChip (Post 3526861)
When I was single, way back in the 2000’s, and a lowly regional FO, I nonrevved all over the world. In one year I calculated that my nonrev tickets valued about $40,000. (I went to several international locations in FC, including Australia). That’s more money than I made that year, gross.
It’s a huge benefit. Maybe not to everyone, but definitely to some. I still use nonrev benefits with my family. I don’t nonrev during the middle of summer, I plan accordingly. I just went to the UK for a week, nonrev, for free. There were over 100 seats open. It’s a great benefit. I’m not ashamed of saving $1,000 plus. I paid $12 for a bag of chocolates for the FAs. It was a good trade.
I don’t commute anymore, because commuting sucks. And believe it or not, even commuting is a privilege.

And that is absolutely awesome.

But not the same as someone buying multi thousand dollar tickets to Disney World for specific dates, then skimping on plane tickets and being mad when they don’t make the nonrev cut with their family. Nonrevving has NEVER been a guaranteed seat; plan accordingly.

jaxsurf 11-05-2022 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3526789)
This. Honestly I'd be willing to accept keeping our current rules using stanby/JS with a backup flight going to work in order to get PS home. I never stress about getting to work. Getting home is all that matters to me.

Agree 100% with you and bode.

jaxsurf 11-05-2022 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by overqualified52 (Post 3526684)
I worked Fast food back in the early 80’s during high school . Got snarled at many a time by young people . Not sure where it’s exclusive to “Boomers” who get mad at fast food workers.

It’s more embarrassing to see old people do it because they should have the life experience, wisdom, and grace to understand that it’s a minimum wage employee (often a teenager) making your food. If it’s wrong, it’s not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. Certainly nothing worth yelling at someone about.

jaxsurf 11-05-2022 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by Hubcapped (Post 3526843)
Barring the instance of the OP having a base closed on them, I can only laugh. You signed a contract knowing you were going to commute. Kinda goofy to turn it into a one item no vote.

Agreed. You took a job knowing about commuting. Dumb to whine about it now.


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