Originally Posted by saturn (Post 3526613)

If we don't get PSC, then pilots commuting should have their pass rider priority follow the logic of Jumpseats priority:
TO WORK = S1B
FROM WORK = S1C

Airfix flying for leisure = S2/S3

Originally Posted by overqualified52 (Post 3526594)

I think the biggest thing that hackles people’s feathers is that we still have a positive space to get to work if we give ourselves 2 flights but the fact that there are 35 percent less flights than pre Covid makes it difficult for the 2 flight rule ,so until the flight frequencies go back to pre Covid levels the policy should still remain for PS one flight to work . I was hired early 90’s and for many , many years we had no PS to work . It was great when the Union got the new commute policy for positive space second flight but that was at a time when there were way more flights than now . Also (at least in my opinion ) if we are able to get positive space to work then we should be good enough to get positive space home after completing the trip and making money for the company (Delta/Endeavor) . That’s the real issue with this whole thing is getting positive space home and just having 1 ps flight to work until the frequency of flights returns pre Covid . If we are important enough to get to work , then we should be important enough to get PS home . It should be a priority with the Union and the company considering over half the DL/9E pilots are commuters . Nothing should have to be given up for it . PS to and from work should be a normal part of Airline operations and life moving forward. I guess it’s probably a 70/30 split on how everyone feels about keeping it with 70 percent for keeping it ? Feel free to throw food at me 😂

Originally Posted by overqualified52 (Post 3526594)

I think the biggest thing that hackles people’s feathers is that we still have a positive space to get to work if we give ourselves 2 flights but the fact that there are 35 percent less flights than pre Covid makes it difficult for the 2 flight rule ,so until the flight frequencies go back to pre Covid levels the policy should still remain for PS one flight to work . I was hired early 90’s and for many , many years we had no PS to work . It was great when the Union got the new commute policy for positive space second flight but that was at a time when there were way more flights than now . Also (at least in my opinion ) if we are able to get positive space to work then we should be good enough to get positive space home after completing the trip and making money for the company (Delta/Endeavor) . That’s the real issue with this whole thing is getting positive space home and just having 1 ps flight to work until the frequency of flights returns pre Covid . If we are important enough to get to work , then we should be important enough to get PS home . It should be a priority with the Union and the company considering over half the DL/9E pilots are commuters . Nothing should have to be given up for it . PS to and from work should be a normal part of Airline operations and life moving forward. I guess it’s probably a 70/30 split on how everyone feels about keeping it with 70 percent for keeping it ? Feel free to throw food at me 😂

Originally Posted by jaxsurf (Post 3526644)

I think this is a great idea.

Half the fun of it would be seeing the boomers howl about how their sEnIoRiTy iS BeInG vIoLaTeD :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by jaxsurf (Post 3526639)

It really is dumb. PSC does not erode anyone’s seniority. Everyone still gets on as a non-rev according to their date of hire.

Also, it blows my mind that people who make upwards of $200k/year don’t just buy tickets. We even have a discounted option! You know what our loads are like, you’re making the conscious choice to do that to yourself.

Stop being such cheapskates. It’s pathetic and embarrassing hearing highly compensated pilots whine about nonrevving. It’s like seeing boomers scream at fast food employees for getting their order slightly wrong. Embarrassing.

Originally Posted by Iceberg (Post 3526676)

Are you still at Endeavor? It seems like you guys may have better luck getting it than us. Probably before we even settle global scope language.

Originally Posted by bode (Post 3526515)

Is it? Or is it honesty that you don’t like? I have a preference and one vote. So do you. Just like tons of people have posted they are not ok with ALPA putting energy into something that will never help them. That’s how I feel on this, what’s wrong with that?


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Originally Posted by bode (Post 3526443)

In light of all the people completely ecstatic we have lost the PSC I have decided to vote down any contract which provides improvements to our medical coverage and does not contain PSC. Reason being I utilized the PSC commute but do not utilize Delta’s medical. I know I’m not the only one who doesn’t use the Delta medical.

Now I know this is going to draw a lot of hate, but I want it to be stated, it’s as ridiculous as people saying the end of the LOA was a good thing.

Opinions? Am I wrong? Seems to make sense to me…


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Originally Posted by jaxsurf (Post 3526639)

It really is dumb. PSC does not erode anyone’s seniority. Everyone still gets on as a non-rev according to their date of hire.

Also, it blows my mind that people who make upwards of $200k/year don’t just buy tickets. We even have a discounted option! You know what our loads are like, you’re making the conscious choice to do that to yourself.

Stop being such cheapskates. It’s pathetic and embarrassing hearing highly compensated pilots whine about nonrevving. It’s like seeing boomers scream at fast food employees for getting their order slightly wrong. Embarrassing.

Originally Posted by DisMyGamerTag (Post 3526712)

After the contract is signed I’m fine if they figure some sort of x number of positive space tickets we can all use whether you commute or not. I would use mine for vacations.

I support that. After a contract is signed.

But I’m not paying/negotiating for others to commute while I suck it up and live in subpar Georgia, pay for private schools to make up for lackluster state schools, and drive through a crime infested Atlanta to go to work.