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12-02-2022 | 11:57 AM

#261

Shoozz

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Smells like poo to me

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Originally Posted by TurbineBlade

Hearing the same thing. The negotiating committee has something that is worthwhile to brief the MEC on. We may be at the finish line and hear soon.
I’m still ready to vote no if anything smells like what my dog drops every morning.

I think you may have to depending on your particular desires. I know that I expect to be disappointed on the goings on. The vote mirrored the MEC elections and you can ask your particular reps based on that knowledge.

12-02-2022 | 11:58 AM

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notEnuf

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Originally Posted by Shoozz

trusted first poster...

I heard santa was in attendance and he was opposed to the management offer because it wasn't really a gift. He flew home today and his motives are being questioned because he wouldn't be upstaged at Christmas.

12-02-2022 | 12:01 PM

#263

DWC CAP10 USAF

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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers

So, what's your point?

If you don't buy into that % mantra malarkey you're selling us out.....By GAWD!!!

My point, despite my error of pilot payroll actually being the entire employee payroll, is that comparing the raise of a pilot group that is roughly 10% the size of the DL Mainline pilot group isn't exactly and apples to apples comparison.

12-02-2022 | 12:02 PM

#264

cards5

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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF

Not our problem, lackey

12-02-2022 | 12:03 PM

#265

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From: Looking left

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Originally Posted by Gone Flying

I'm pretty sure all employees at DL are less than the number you mentioned. I think our total cost is around 4B/year

if our payroll was 11B/ year we would average $758k/year per pilot…

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Originally Posted by notEnuf

Your numbers are too large by 2x+. Total payroll is about $12B. $3B for the latest quarter. (Q3 2022 10-Q)

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Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg

Correct. Total DAL employee payroll is ~ $11 billion (will be this year). Pilots likely represent ~4.5 billion.

Thanks All for the correction...I knew I read $12B'ish for "payroll"...guess I missed the fine print of it being total employee and not just pilots.

Don't want to edit original post so won't screw up the quotes so far, so this is my mea culpa.

Disregard everything after bonjour!

12-02-2022 | 12:04 PM

#266

The Localizer

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I am a 1000 percent no if it doesn’t contain paid daycare for my kids when I’m on my greenslip

12-02-2022 | 12:04 PM

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Vsop

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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF

I get that.
Apples to apples is our pay rates for the same aircraft. That’s the same way we compare ourselves to the other carriers, and we are now behind our wholly owned regional.

12-02-2022 | 12:06 PM

#268

Buck Rogers

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gone Flying

not sure I get your point. Just pointing out we don’t cost $11B/year in payroll

Well, I guess my point is.... when you(one) think's an 88% raise on top of ALL the other QOL life improvements that are more important than money(so I've been told).....somewhere the question needs to be answered....is it even close to a possibility?

Yes accuracy is important, but somewhere the rubber meets the road and reasonableness has to be addressed. JMHO

BTW....my point was an amalgamation of several posters, I Just happened to grab yours. Not a slap at you personally but even your more accurate numbers seem a bridge too far for an 88% raise Again, just 1 opinion.

12-02-2022 | 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cards5

Not our problem, lackey

"Lackey"..you are hilarious.

You can find lots of posts here with me calling out the company.

I just like pointing out when people make outrages comparisons. When have we (mainline) ever pattern bargained off the regionals. We might as well be comparing Volkswagens to Watermellons.

Does DL compare it financials to Cape Air? I mean they both fly airplanes and both have pilot payrolls.

12-02-2022 | 12:12 PM

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Delta is raising prices on absolutely everything.

Here’s an excerpt from the latest skyclub changes:

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Effective January 1, 2023, Individual Club Memberships (including renewals) will be $695, or 69,500 miles, and Executive Club Memberships (including renewals) will be $1,495, or 149,500 miles.
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Effective February 2, 2023, Delta Sky Club Executive and Lifetime Members may bring up to two more guests to the Delta Sky Club, in addition to the complimentary two guests already permitted at a per-visit rate of $50 per person or 5,000 miles (previously $39 or 3,900 miles), per location.

Today probably fell short of our expectations. Keep the eye on the prize. #Deltacanaffordit