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Originally Posted by GeneralLee
(Post 3551539)
Correct. The 787 would be a logical replacement for both of this fleets. We need both manufacturers at DL. It’s better for the airline in the long run.
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Originally Posted by Hubcapped
(Post 3551517)
Which provides more long term stability and (potential) job security for the next 30 years? I let airline execs be airline execs, and focus on being a slow methodical checklist read-do kind of guy
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Originally Posted by Scooter432
(Post 3551474)
There is an RFP out with the 78 vs the 350-1000. Maybe Delta is wising up that its better to have a mixed fleet. An all Airbus fleet doesn't nedcessarily help Delta.
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When do we get Boom jets?
https://www.aviationpros.com/engines...e-for-overture |
Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 3551677)
787, A350, doesn't matter anymore. All pays the same. The beancounters will figure out which plane to get. Not directed at you but this thread in general, I'm shocked that the SJS over the 787 continues even though the 350/330/765 will pay the same
I think the company saying we want all WB Airbus fleet is just a tactic to get Boeing to the table to give us a good deal. The 797 is not feasible to wait forever on, and the 330 has not been a great replacement for the ER flying. |
Originally Posted by DALFA
(Post 3551512)
Basically...
Pull up the United route map and then pull up our route map and be ready to cry. Outside of the 30x CDG/AMS/LHR flights each day we're nothing but a regional airline that feeds AF/KL/VS. I'm sorry to be frank but this is complete and utter nonsense. While we are not as big as United let's not get into hyperbole. The bid packet for our international fleets has plenty of flying outside AF/KL/VS hubs |
Originally Posted by jerryleber
(Post 3550969)
Yes it it. United's domestic network and hubs are underdeveloped and more RJ dependent than AAL and especially DAL thus the big narrow body orders. DAL's ATL will always be the best domestic hub in the world and by a large margin. United's international network is more developed than its competitors.
UAL has more potential to fill up the seats of a 737 to/from most of its hubs, much more than AAL. It CAN develop away from RJs (and in doing so give capacity relief for such hubs!), AAL in many cases cannot. UAL hubs are largely heavy with O&D traffic, are in higher-income cities, and nearly all serve as significant international gateways. In any case, I won't undermine the ATL super-fortress that draws envy from every pilot not working for Delta. :D |
Originally Posted by AirCav
(Post 3550831)
Growth??? We sell 18 777s and have plans to retire all 767s and possibly older 330s. I don't see much growth. More like a replacement plan. Plus the ratio of WB to NB keeps getting worst.
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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
(Post 3551341)
Our largest wide body is the A350 which is more comfortable in a 3x3x3 configuration than a 787.
https://aircraft.airbus.com/en/newsr...e-and-airspace 3-4-3 , We made the cabin 4" wider. Plenty of room for another seat in each row... (not saying Delta would do this, but I can think of a few airlines that may try...) |
Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator
(Post 3551263)
https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...rs-2022-12-13/
United CEO Scott Kirby told reporters "the right time for 350 versus (787) conversation is when we're replacing the bulk of the 777s, which really doesn't begin to the end of the decade."Kirby said one key factor in the decision between Boeing and Airbus for its major widebody order was its current 787 fleet. 764 replaced by 788: https://www.aviatorjoe.net/go/compare/767-400ER/787-8/ 772 replaced by 78X: https://www.aviatorjoe.net/go/compare/777-200/787-10/ (maybe we'll see, down the road 7-10 years) 777-300ER replaced by A350-1000: https://www.aviatorjoe.net/go/compar...0ER/A350-1000/ But the 787-10 and 777-300ER are not even close: https://www.aviatorjoe.net/go/compare/787-10/777-300ER/ |
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