In “retro” spect…
01-03-2023 | 12:23 AM
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In “retro” spect…
…. We are spending a lot of time calculating what we should have gotten for retro pay, but I bet within a year we will wish we had a “‘me too” clause with our Delta Flight attendants pay raises, instead of United or American pilots.
My guess is 5 months. Anyone else care to guess when, or if it will happen?
My guess is 5 months. Anyone else care to guess when, or if it will happen?
01-03-2023 | 03:16 AM
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…. We are spending a lot of time calculating what we should have gotten for retro pay, but I bet within a year we will wish we had a “‘me too” clause with our Delta Flight attendants pay raises, instead of United or American pilots.
My guess is 5 months. Anyone else care to guess when, or if it will happen?
My guess is 5 months. Anyone else care to guess when, or if it will happen?
01-03-2023 | 04:39 AM
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I read this wrong and apologize. I thought this was another apples and oranges comparison of FA and pilot pay.
I don’t think it will matter very much. Applicants will shotgun apply, just like pilots, and most will stick with whomever hired them first. Some will leave for better pastures, we will gain some from others. Some will likely quit the profession altogether. In the end, I think delta will keep pay rates comparable so it shouldn’t even be a factor.
I don’t think it will matter very much. Applicants will shotgun apply, just like pilots, and most will stick with whomever hired them first. Some will leave for better pastures, we will gain some from others. Some will likely quit the profession altogether. In the end, I think delta will keep pay rates comparable so it shouldn’t even be a factor.
01-03-2023 | 04:49 AM
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I read this wrong and apologize. I thought this was another apples and oranges comparison of FA and pilot pay.
I don’t think it will matter very much. Applicants will shotgun apply, just like pilots, and most will stick with whomever hired them first. Some will leave for better pastures, we will gain some from others. Some will likely quit the profession altogether. In the end, I think delta will keep pay rates comparable so it shouldn’t even be a factor.
I don’t think it will matter very much. Applicants will shotgun apply, just like pilots, and most will stick with whomever hired them first. Some will leave for better pastures, we will gain some from others. Some will likely quit the profession altogether. In the end, I think delta will keep pay rates comparable so it shouldn’t even be a factor.
01-03-2023 | 06:36 AM
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2.)I’m guessing neither UAL or AA will surpass our wide body rates. I bet the company is pretty sure of that too. Most of my buds at UAL would take our new pay rates and gains in other areas of their contract.
All I’m saying is it’s likely that it would have been more advantageous for us to tie an increase in our pay rates to our company’s strong desire to keep the FA’s non unionized over another company and its pilots commitment to paying its wide body pilots more than us.
01-03-2023 | 06:39 AM
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1.) Not dollar amount. Percentages. As in, if the company raises other employer groups pay a certain percent, our pay would go up as well. Doesn’t have to be 1:1. 30% could get us 3%. 20% could get us 2%. 10% could get is 1%. .
2.)I’m guessing neither UAL or AA will surpass our wide body rates. I bet the company is pretty sure of that too. Most of my buds at UAL would take our new pay rates and gains in other areas of their contract.
All I’m saying is it’s likely that it would have been more advantageous for us to tie an increase in our pay rates to our company’s strong desire to keep the FA’s non unionized over another company and its pilots commitment to paying its wide body pilots more than us.
2.)I’m guessing neither UAL or AA will surpass our wide body rates. I bet the company is pretty sure of that too. Most of my buds at UAL would take our new pay rates and gains in other areas of their contract.
All I’m saying is it’s likely that it would have been more advantageous for us to tie an increase in our pay rates to our company’s strong desire to keep the FA’s non unionized over another company and its pilots commitment to paying its wide body pilots more than us.
01-03-2023 | 06:47 AM
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And I think it's disingenuous to compare % raises of a group that, on average, makes 20-30% of what we make, and that's just in rates only. I'm not saying we shouldn't have a "me too" that triggers some sort of raise, but, no, I don't think it's reasonable for us to get a 16% raise if they get a 16% raise.
