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01-03-2023 | 08:06 AM

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…. We are spending a lot of time calculating what we should have gotten for retro pay, but I bet within a year we will wish we had a “‘me too” clause with our Delta Flight attendants pay raises, instead of United or American pilots.

My guess is 5 months. Anyone else care to guess when, or if it will happen?

I have always thought we should have a me too for the non-cons post amendable date. If the company can afford a 4% raise for the majority of the employees we should get it too, while working out the details of the PWA. Our contract never expires but yet our payscale does, how stupid is that?

01-03-2023 | 08:22 AM

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There were/are regionals that have guaranteed raises after the amendable date. Obviously the company won’t allow that because it allows them to repeat what we are going through and save a boatload of money.

01-03-2023 | 08:24 AM

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Id prefer that if anyone in the western world gets a raise, including congress, we get that plus 1%.

01-03-2023 | 08:34 AM

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Id prefer that if anyone in the western world gets a raise, including congress, we get that plus 1%.

Middle eastern sheikhs would be my comparative set. I make more than most congress people.

01-03-2023 | 09:27 AM

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I have zero interest in any me-too with other Delta work groups…other than maybe Ed.

01-03-2023 | 11:00 AM

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I have zero interest in any me-too with other Delta work groups…other than maybe Ed.

Same here.

01-03-2023 | 12:07 PM

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I have zero interest in any me-too with other Delta work groups…other than maybe Ed.

So you are fine with pay stagnation after 4 years when your contract is again overdue? The whole retro fiasco, slowed/rushed timeline for the PWA would be moo. Explain to me why you don't want a pay mechanism that accounts for the non expiration of the perpetual PWA.

01-03-2023 | 12:14 PM

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Im for a mechanism, but not one tied to non-cons. This will eventually boomerang on us.

01-03-2023 | 12:37 PM

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Im for a mechanism, but not one tied to non-cons. This will eventually boomerang on us.

I think it would have been smart to tie as many “mechanisms” for our pay raises to as many things as possible.

If the company has enough to pay other employees after crying broke to us — pay us a percentage too.

If the company has enough money to pay millions to buy 49% of another airline — give us a 5% raise.

If the company has enough money to buy stock back — pay us too.

We should always be looking to think out of the box for our advantage. You can best believe the company is always doing this. It’s why we keep getting beat.

01-03-2023 | 01:55 PM

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Believe it or not, I actually just meant what I said - nothing more or less. No, I don’t seek pay stagnation any more than you do. I just don’t care to create a connection with an unrelated workgroup. I don’t care about non-unionized/non-contract employee compensation or work rules. NMFP. I’m not a flight attendant, I’m not a dispatcher, I don’t work at the GO starbucks and I don’t clean lavs or fix airplanes.

If you want to correlate our pay in some way to executive compensation, that’s a different animal. But no, I honestly don’t want to synch up with 20,000 employees whose job qualifications and training couldn’t be more different than mine. That type of trigger might sound like a nice backstop, but it wouldn’t come without negotiations and likely some quid pro quo. No thanks.