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Herkflyr 03-06-2023 03:23 AM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 3602633)
Also the signing process is pretty dumb. Most airlines don't even make the FO sign the release anyway.

We didn't either, for decades. A few years ago they added the requirement for all active pilots. Don't know why.

StartngOvr 03-06-2023 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 3602655)
We didn't either, for decades. A few years ago they added the requirement for all active pilots. Don't know why.

FAR 117. Fitness for duty acknowledgement became required.

Herkflyr 03-06-2023 04:42 AM


Originally Posted by StartngOvr (Post 3602664)
FAR 117. Fitness for duty acknowledgement became required.

Makes sense. So I assume the prior comment of "most other airlines don't have the FOs sign the release" is inaccurate?

Podrick 03-06-2023 06:17 AM

Just dropping in to point out that M+ is a third party app that Delta bought, Delta IT didn’t design it, nor did they design things like the delta app. Stuff like that gets farmed out. Not defending M+, I just cringe when I see people complain about IT, when really it should be directed at whatever management team picked this and had the chance to customize it.

Jaww 03-06-2023 07:18 AM

M+ is the first app or piece of technology that has made me feel old. I was a whiz at the html. It was easy to use and had everything. M+ is clunky. I’m saying the same things lot have said already. I use to fill out my lineup card in 30 seconds. Now it takes me closer to 5 minutes. Simple things like arrival gate are buried. Fuel loading isn’t as easy to translate with required and optional gas. NOTAMS are a PITA, why do I have to scroll through all to get what I want?

Im sure I will get used to it but after a decade of paperless promises, I’m amazed this is what we got. Oh well, onto the next crisis.

CBreezy 03-06-2023 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 3602778)
M+ is the first app or piece of technology that has made me feel old. I was a whiz at the html. It was easy to use and had everything. M+ is clunky. I’m saying the same things lot have said already. I use to fill out my lineup card in 30 seconds. Now it takes me closer to 5 minutes. Simple things like arrival gate are buried. Fuel loading isn’t as easy to translate with required and optional gas. NOTAMS are a PITA, why do I have to scroll through all to get what I want?

Im sure I will get used to it but after a decade of paperless promises, I’m amazed this is what we got. Oh well, onto the next crisis.

Ok. I need more info. Why do people care so much about the planned arrival gate?

Jaww 03-06-2023 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3602780)
Ok. I need more info. Why do people care so much about the planned arrival gate?

That’s fair. I’ve just always used it to set up my tablet. Not really necessary until NATS brief I suppose and it’s always subject to change. Guess it’s a thing I’ve always done…habits and all.

WXS15 03-06-2023 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 3602684)
Makes sense. So I assume the prior comment of "most other airlines don't have the FOs sign the release" is inaccurate?

United FOs (& Capts) click a button acknowledging fit for duty before being able to see the flt plan. Then the Capt (or really brave FO) will click a separate button to accept the flight plan.

Thruster 03-06-2023 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 3602778)
M+ is the first app or piece of technology that has made me feel old. I was a whiz at the html. It was easy to use and had everything. M+ is clunky. I’m saying the same things lot have said already. I use to fill out my lineup card in 30 seconds. Now it takes me closer to 5 minutes. Simple things like arrival gate are buried. Fuel loading isn’t as easy to translate with required and optional gas. NOTAMS are a PITA, why do I have to scroll through all to get what I want?

Im sure I will get used to it but after a decade of paperless promises, I’m amazed this is what we got. Oh well, onto the next crisis.

Lineup card.
Tweet flashbacks.
Grabs paper bag and breathes heavily.

Jaww 03-06-2023 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Thruster (Post 3602790)
Lineup card.
Tweet flashbacks.
Grabs paper bag and breathes heavily.

I guess this was my version of tell me you’re an Air Force guy without saying you’re an Air Force guy. :p


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