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TNDeltaFlyboy 07-30-2023 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by tunes (Post 3675272)
yeah, they blocked the ability to do that....

ON has worked for me all day today. version 1.4.1 of M+

Trip7 07-30-2023 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by BCan (Post 3675333)
Cruise mach…step alt cruise mach. CI would be nice…we don’t use it. Reporting points….but I’d be willing to report whatever point…that’s less an issue.

It isn’t hard to observe a pilot from every fleet load the FMS…then provide the necessary preflight info. If I have to finger bang all over the place…then I’ll just use the html.

The sign in mech…gmafb. Let’s be honest…one pilot is going to make scribbles for everyone’s sig…there isn’t going to be airdrops or the passing around of iPads. It’s terrible. I scan my badge at the gate, I sign into acars, my iPad has my face recognition…and this is what we come up with for the release? Laughable.

Oh damn, 73 auto uploads all the cruise speed info. You do have to look on the enroute tab for position reports. Agree 100% with the sign the release process. I don't do it since the 73 ACARS update has password prompt provisioned for future use.

JamesBond 07-31-2023 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 3675198)
Same here. Just forced myself to use it. Griped about it for a trip or two and have now settled into a usable flow. At this point I'm an M+ user but I don't like M+. The UI is clunky and laughably bad (only comes in dark mode!? Lol), it is poorly thought out with respect to our normal work flow and the procedure to sign the release is idiotic. There is just so much room for improvement.

You can get it into a light mode if you know how.

Edit: I see DryClutch showed you how. And you proceeded to whine about it. Awesome.

LeineLodge 07-31-2023 01:31 AM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3675401)
You can get it into a light mode if you know how.

Edit: I see DryClutch showed you how. And you proceeded to whine about it. Awesome.

Or, they could add a toggle button that alternately applies a day/night style sheet. That they haven’t yet implies:

A) They don’t care

or

B) The app is such a rigidly designed POS that it would require a big re-write to add such basic functionality


For a beginner to intermediate programmer day/night mode is an hour to implement at the most. No hackey secret workaround needed.

Soooo, I’m going with a nice mix of A and B. Same applies to the rest of the UI/UX.

321pilot 07-31-2023 01:44 AM


Originally Posted by TNDeltaFlyboy (Post 3675340)
ON has worked for me all day today. version 1.4.1 of M+

I just tried and my shortcuts still work. I think they have required that they not be shared and promoted, but if you already have them then they still work. I'm sure over time they will start breaking down as updates happen to the apps but not to the shortcuts.

JamesBond 07-31-2023 02:03 AM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 3675408)
Or, they could add a toggle button that alternately applies a day/night style sheet. That they haven’t yet implies:

A) They don’t care

or

B) The app is such a rigidly designed POS that it would require a big re-write to add such basic functionality


For a beginner to intermediate programmer day/night mode is an hour to implement at the most. No hackey secret workaround needed.

Soooo, I’m going with a nice mix of A and B. Same applies to the rest of the UI/UX.

I'll go with "A".
So what? You have the workaround. It is a one time deal. Do it and you're done. Or constantly whine about it.

Welcome to corporate America.

DryClutch 07-31-2023 02:15 AM


Originally Posted by Tanker1497 (Post 3675275)
And this right here summarizes the functionality of M-

Yea I get it, not ideal. Just working with what we've got I guess........

FangsF15 07-31-2023 02:20 AM


Originally Posted by BCan (Post 3675333)


The sign in mech…gmafb. Let’s be honest…one pilot is going to make scribbles for everyone’s sig…there isn’t going to be airdrops or the passing around of iPads. It’s terrible. I scan my badge at the gate, I sign into acars, my iPad has my face recognition…and this is what we come up with for the release? Laughable.

FWIW, I personally spoke with KF, the manager of Flt Ops tech, and he said the “sign in mech” was 100% driven by the FAA POI, and they had relented on the “airdrop or passing around”requirement. Each pilot will simply sign their respective app.

That said, why the FAA won’t allow ACARS pins like other airlines have had for 10 years is beyond me.

LeineLodge 07-31-2023 02:25 AM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3675414)
I'll go with "A".
So what? You have the workaround. It is a one time deal. Do it and you're done. Or constantly whine about it.

Welcome to corporate America.

Once. And then the sun goes down…

Whining or expecting a bare minimum from the tech we use to do our jobs?

Your response is exactly how I imagine our feedback is received by the M+ team.

Silly pilots just don’t understand. Stop whining and row.

Instead they expend effort shutting down organic, FREE innovation from within their own ranks 🤦‍♂️

Herkflyr 07-31-2023 03:18 AM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3675401)
You can get it into a light mode if you know how.

Edit: I see DryClutch showed you how. And you proceeded to whine about it. Awesome.


He wasn't "whining" about it but merely noting the absurdity of having to go into iPad settings and doing all sort of trickery to get a simple function that all our other apps (FWV, FD Pro and Aerodocs) have that requires a simple tap.


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