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Originally Posted by BCan
(Post 3608021)
I’ve decided if I’m denied boarding, my technique will be;
1) immediately post on flight family (for all to see) that I was denied boarding. Post flights affected by my missed DH and that I’m contacting crew tracking. 2) contact crew tracking for re-booking. I think gate agents would get the memo very quickly if this is a common technique. FCR it and move on |
Originally Posted by OOfff
(Post 3608080)
thats going to work great when you’re denied your boarding priority, not boarding entirely.
FCR it and move on Yeah right. FCR it it. You must be relatively new to Delta. Um hmm, that'll work (sarc). Do you really know what they do with our FCR's ?? Give you a hint; looks like a doughnut, rhymes with scoop (no offense meant to a mod). Obvious you don't DH out of the ATL often. |
Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
(Post 3608299)
LoL
Yeah right. FCR it it. You must be relatively new to Delta. Um hmm, that'll work (sarc). Do you really know what they do with our FCR's ?? Give you a hint; looks like a doughnut, rhymes with scoop (no offense meant to a mod). Obvious you don't DH out of the ATL often. |
Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg
(Post 3608000)
I was lucky enough to get into a “spirited” conversation with a gate agent last week over this. Fortunately there was a red coat at the podium that informed the rude gate agent of her ignorance.
Just because it’s in the PWA now, doesn’t mean that the company decided to tell ACS. |
Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 3609523)
There was a memo sent out after our TA passed informing the ACS agents about it.. now did they read it? Who knows.
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I’ll just throw this here since it seems like a good spot. Under the new contract I would have made 600$ extra last night for the extra time in the day (not implemented yet).
Now with that being said I think captains need to start thinking really hard about extending. I can see clueless captains pushing FOs to keep going so they can get paid extra. If I’m reading this scenario wrong my bad, but I’m suddenly worried about the safety implications of paying people extra to fly longer when they are tired. Could creat conflict on the flight deck as well. Food for thought. For me going forward, as a captain I’m going to give zero indications of where I lie. I will make sure the FO answers first without any of my bias involved. And if I feel like we need a break, then I’m going to pull the plug on our operation regardless of what they want (obviously this stands now no matter what, just highlighting that you may not be getting the real story from the FO). My 2cents |
Originally Posted by Hubcapped
(Post 3610422)
I’ll just throw this here since it seems like a good spot. Under the new contract I would have made 600$ extra last night for the extra time in the day (not implemented yet).
Now with that being said I think captains need to start thinking really hard about extending. I can see clueless captains pushing FOs to keep going so they can get paid extra. If I’m reading this scenario wrong my bad, but I’m suddenly worried about the safety implications of paying people extra to fly longer when they are tired. Could creat conflict on the flight deck as well. Food for thought. For me going forward, as a captain I’m going to give zero indications of where I lie. I will make sure the FO answers first without any of my bias involved. And if I feel like we need a break, then I’m going to pull the plug on our operation regardless of what they want (obviously this stands now no matter what, just highlighting that you may not be getting the real story from the FO). My 2cents |
Originally Posted by Hubcapped
(Post 3610422)
I’ll just throw this here since it seems like a good spot. Under the new contract I would have made 600$ extra last night for the extra time in the day (not implemented yet).
Now with that being said I think captains need to start thinking really hard about extending. I can see clueless captains pushing FOs to keep going so they can get paid extra. If I’m reading this scenario wrong my bad, but I’m suddenly worried about the safety implications of paying people extra to fly longer when they are tired. Could creat conflict on the flight deck as well. Food for thought. For me going forward, as a captain I’m going to give zero indications of where I lie. I will make sure the FO answers first without any of my bias involved. And if I feel like we need a break, then I’m going to pull the plug on our operation regardless of what they want (obviously this stands now no matter what, just highlighting that you may not be getting the real story from the FO). My 2cents I’m hearing your premise but let’s not pretend FO’s don’t push too. |
Originally Posted by CoefficientX
(Post 3610517)
Yep. Absolutely no money hungry FO’s out there who would now be incentivized to strongly suggest to the captain to extend.
I’m hearing your premise but let’s not pretend FO’s don’t push too. Captain is the ultimate authority. It’s good to ponder these scenarios. I don’t mention FOs because any good captain wouldn’t give 2 sh1ts what an FO thinks about his ability to continue if the captain doesn’t feel like it’s the safe thing. This food for thought is meant for captains since, you know, they are in charge. If anyone thinks a probie new hire might not keep going because a captain wants some extra cheddar is delusional Some people on here just want conflict in every thread lol |
It’s an individual decision.
captains opinion has no influence …. |
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