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Old 03-01-2023 | 07:14 AM
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Congratulations to all the Junior pilots on achieving their goals. Too bad about the retro though. For the first time in history, management has every incentive not to come to the table after the amendable date. They’re celebrating.
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Old 03-01-2023 | 07:17 AM
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Everyone didn't get exactly what they wanted? Boo.
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Old 03-01-2023 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Taildragger1
Congratulations to all the Junior pilots on achieving their goals. Too bad about the retro though. For the first time in history, management has every incentive not to come to the table after the amendable date. They’re celebrating.
78% dude, quit with the inter-generational crap. Plenty of senior dudes vote Yes on this.
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Old 03-01-2023 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Taildragger1
Congratulations to all the Junior pilots on achieving their goals. Too bad about the retro though. For the first time in history, management has every incentive not to come to the table after the amendable date. They’re celebrating.
How did that full retro in C2015 keep them from dragging their feet today? Show your work.
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Old 03-01-2023 | 07:19 AM
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78% dude, quit with the inter-generational crap. Plenty of senior dudes vote Yes on this.
Agree, the majority has spoken.
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Old 03-01-2023 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Taildragger1
Congratulations to all the Junior pilots on achieving their goals. Too bad about the retro though. For the first time in history, management has every incentive not to come to the table after the amendable date. They’re celebrating.

well anyways,
the TA passed with 78 percent in favor and 96 of eligible votes being cast.
global scope passed with 90% in favor.
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Old 03-01-2023 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Taildragger1
Congratulations to all the Junior pilots on achieving their goals. Too bad about the retro though. For the first time in history, management has every incentive not to come to the table after the amendable date. They’re celebrating.
If this logic is true and based on this contract, pilots have equal incentive to never take a concession again.
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Old 03-01-2023 | 07:21 AM
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Thanks for doing the heavy lifting.
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Old 03-01-2023 | 07:21 AM
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We really dodged a bullet here. March 2020 is about to come back with a vengeance.
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Old 03-01-2023 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
Everyone didn't get exactly what they wanted? Boo.
Yeah. The concerted efforts to continually lie to FK the only pillar that was of any value to the Deadzoners was a tremendous success. Congratulations

The Deadzoners had plenty of time to be made whole

*Math or reality wasn’t your thing, huh?

The Deadzoners got to fly an extra 5 years

*Assuming I made up the 3.6 million, annuitized value, of the stolen deferred compensation I worked 5 years for free. Yay!

I was stuck at the regionals too long and I blame the Deadzoners.

*We didn’t get a vote on that. Scope sucked for us too.

The pension was frozen, not stolen.

*Only true for a few North West guys. For everyone else, it was turned over to the PBGC. 12 cents on the dollar for me so there’s that.

You’ve had multiple contracts to fix it.

*Working for ALPA for most of the past 38 years, you have no idea of the corruption in place since the bankruptcy.

Just shut up and die you old fart.

*We’re all going there my friend.

I sincerely hope that after a few decades, some unforeseen event doesn’t take place to wipe out the 401k you think you’re saving only to be told by the next generation that you should have planned better. Now go die please.
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