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03-20-2023 | 02:00 PM
#381
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Huh? How did you infer that I’m “pretending FOs don’t push too”?
Captain is the ultimate authority. It’s good to ponder these scenarios. I don’t mention FOs because any good captain wouldn’t give 2 sh1ts what an FO thinks about his ability to continue if the captain doesn’t feel like it’s the safe thing. This food for thought is meant for captains since, you know, they are in charge.
If anyone thinks a probie new hire might not keep going because a captain wants some extra cheddar is delusional
Some people on here just want conflict in every thread lol
Captain is the ultimate authority. It’s good to ponder these scenarios. I don’t mention FOs because any good captain wouldn’t give 2 sh1ts what an FO thinks about his ability to continue if the captain doesn’t feel like it’s the safe thing. This food for thought is meant for captains since, you know, they are in charge.
If anyone thinks a probie new hire might not keep going because a captain wants some extra cheddar is delusional
Some people on here just want conflict in every thread lol
You seem offended someone questioned you. Not a great trait for a Capt tbh.
The truth is we have some very senior, very savvy FO’s who work way harder than many captains at increasing the bottom line. We also have some very young new captains who haven’t quite yet come into their own and could be influenced by a senior FO.
You’re 100% wrong saying the Capt is in charge when it comes to deciding to extend or not. FO has sole authority over him/herself on that one.
03-20-2023 | 02:25 PM
#382
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Ironic considering the source. Yes the capt is the final authority, not necessarily the ultimate. Freudian slip?
You seem offended someone questioned you. Not a great trait for a Capt tbh.
The truth is we have some very senior, very savvy FO’s who work way harder than many captains at increasing the bottom line. We also have some very young new captains who haven’t quite yet come into their own and could be influenced by a senior FO.
You’re 100% wrong saying the Capt is in charge when it comes to deciding to extend or not. FO has sole authority over him/herself on that one.
You seem offended someone questioned you. Not a great trait for a Capt tbh.
The truth is we have some very senior, very savvy FO’s who work way harder than many captains at increasing the bottom line. We also have some very young new captains who haven’t quite yet come into their own and could be influenced by a senior FO.
You’re 100% wrong saying the Capt is in charge when it comes to deciding to extend or not. FO has sole authority over him/herself on that one.
Please quote where I “pretend FOs won’t push”
Also please quote where I say the captain is the only person in charge of extending Within the context of not giving the option to the other pilot
You are looking to fight when I’m merely talking to other captains about a safety concern.
Fwiw I agree with you on both those points, they are not what is being discussed. If you want to argue with yourself have at it.
Thanks for playing.
03-20-2023 | 05:20 PM
#385
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Ok man let’s play this game
Please quote where I “pretend FOs won’t push”
Also please quote where I say the captain is the only person in charge of extending Within the context of not giving the option to the other pilot
You are looking to fight when I’m merely talking to other captains about a safety concern.
Fwiw I agree with you on both those points, they are not what is being discussed. If you want to argue with yourself have at it.
Thanks for playing.
Please quote where I “pretend FOs won’t push”
Also please quote where I say the captain is the only person in charge of extending Within the context of not giving the option to the other pilot
You are looking to fight when I’m merely talking to other captains about a safety concern.
Fwiw I agree with you on both those points, they are not what is being discussed. If you want to argue with yourself have at it.
Thanks for playing.
Like you, I’m out.
On a personal note, I broach the topic of extending after my abort brief vs waiting until we are faced with the decision real time. I’m not going to detail that dialogue here but no FO I fly with will ever feel pressured to extend.
03-20-2023 | 05:22 PM
#386
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03-20-2023 | 05:29 PM
#387
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You specifically said “clueless captains” in your original post. I simply pointed out that it’s not only captains who push. Your feelings got hurt, you took it personally and here we are.
Like you, I’m out.
On a personal note, I broach the topic of extending after my abort brief vs waiting until we are faced with the decision real time. I’m not going to detail that dialogue here but no FO I fly with will ever feel pressured to extend.
Like you, I’m out.
On a personal note, I broach the topic of extending after my abort brief vs waiting until we are faced with the decision real time. I’m not going to detail that dialogue here but no FO I fly with will ever feel pressured to extend.
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