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03-14-2023 | 07:34 AM
#361
Rerouted On Weekends
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From: 717A
03-14-2023 | 08:07 AM
#362
Line Holder
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Here’s a mulligan while James is pondering.
The sun setting of the Covid LOA was immediate, and likely saved the Company a few bucks. It’s been debated as a “concession” on this board.
I think that getting Covid excluded from sick look back and the new provisions for a future pandemic far outweigh the tenuous value of the LOA that was negotiated during the deepest depths of the pandemic, and according to my reps was never really envisioned as something that would continue unchallenged for the rest of time. For that reason, I’m completely fine with the trade and don’t personally think it was concessionary in the traditional sense.
The sun setting of the Covid LOA was immediate, and likely saved the Company a few bucks. It’s been debated as a “concession” on this board.
I think that getting Covid excluded from sick look back and the new provisions for a future pandemic far outweigh the tenuous value of the LOA that was negotiated during the deepest depths of the pandemic, and according to my reps was never really envisioned as something that would continue unchallenged for the rest of time. For that reason, I’m completely fine with the trade and don’t personally think it was concessionary in the traditional sense.
03-14-2023 | 11:54 PM
#364
Gets Weekends Off
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Increased distance learning pay was immediate. Throwing two extra meals on a flight at a combined cost of about $18 seemed seemed like an almost no/low cost item for a company of Delta's size. But maybe I don't know enough to know I don't know enough.
03-15-2023 | 04:00 AM
#365
Gets Weekends Off
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From: Road construction signholder
So in your perspective, 330 and 765 pilots should have disdain for their own pay raises, which were a "concession"? That doesn't pass the common sense test.
03-15-2023 | 06:05 AM
#366
Line Holder
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From: Middle Seat
Just because it’s in the PWA now, doesn’t mean that the company decided to tell ACS.
03-15-2023 | 06:35 AM
#367
Coverage Award...
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So you are a big fan of featherbedding and forcing needless training churn to "create jobs"? That reminds me of an American CEO traveling overseas and looking at a construction project. He noticed lots of workers with shovels but no heavy equipment. He asked "where's the heavy equipment?" The answer was "we don't use it because forcing everyone to use a shovel creates more jobs." His answer was "well then why not just tell everyone to use spoons?"
So in your perspective, 330 and 765 pilots should have disdain for their own pay raises, which were a "concession"? That doesn't pass the common sense test.
So in your perspective, 330 and 765 pilots should have disdain for their own pay raises, which were a "concession"? That doesn't pass the common sense test.
03-15-2023 | 06:35 AM
#368
Can’t find crew pickup
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I was lucky enough to get into a “spirited” conversation with a gate agent last week over this. Fortunately there was a red coat at the podium that informed the rude gate agent of her ignorance.
Just because it’s in the PWA now, doesn’t mean that the company decided to tell ACS.
Just because it’s in the PWA now, doesn’t mean that the company decided to tell ACS.
03-15-2023 | 06:38 AM
#369
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I was lucky enough to get into a “spirited” conversation with a gate agent last week over this. Fortunately there was a red coat at the podium that informed the rude gate agent of her ignorance.
Just because it’s in the PWA now, doesn’t mean that the company decided to tell ACS.
Just because it’s in the PWA now, doesn’t mean that the company decided to tell ACS.
1) immediately post on flight family (for all to see) that I was denied boarding. Post flights affected by my missed DH and that I’m contacting crew tracking.
2) contact crew tracking for re-booking.
I think gate agents would get the memo very quickly if this is a common technique.
03-15-2023 | 06:47 AM
#370
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So that was on the companies demand list? Who would have thought it would be so easy to get pay banding?
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