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iahflyr 03-05-2023 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3602356)
There’s more to it, but short version: covid-based sick calls did not count against your sick bank. That exception sunsetted.

Which was given by the company as good will to begin with, so not even a concession.

Whoopsmybad 03-05-2023 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 3602368)
Which was given by the company as good will to begin with, so not even a concession.

I disagree, nothing was given in good will. Unless you are a NONCON.

It took a LOA.

NuGuy 03-05-2023 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3602367)
I agree, but now it’s just like every other sickness. If I have the flu it counts. Now COVID does too. I just don’t see it as that big of a concession.

The exception is that if you provide a positive COVID test, it doesn't count towards any of your lookbacks.

CBreezy 03-05-2023 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3602367)
I agree, but now it’s just like every other sickness. If I have the flu it counts. Now COVID does too. I just don’t see it as that big of a concession.

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But it is a concession. Until Mar 2, if you or a family member got Covid, you didn't use any sick time. Now, if you get Covid or any future pandemic disease, you must use your sick bank. If your family is told to quarantine, you get nothing, with exceptions in state sick locations..

Jaww 03-05-2023 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3602401)
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But it is a concession. Until Mar 2, if you or a family member got Covid, you didn't use any sick time. Now, if you get Covid or any future pandemic disease, you must use your sick bank. If your family is told to quarantine, you get nothing, with exceptions in state sick locations..

I agree, it was a concession. It was disappointing they said no concessions and this flatly stared the pilot group in the face.

That being said, it’s time to snap back to reality. (Oops there goes gravity) The emergency is over and the world goes on. Covid is manageable now and should be treated like a normal illness. It’s here to stay. But the deletion of the LOA to facilitate a TA was a concession, even if I understand why it was done.

CBreezy 03-05-2023 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 3602402)
I agree, it was a concession. It was disappointing they said no concessions and this flatly stared the pilot group in the face.

That being said, it’s time to snap back to reality. (Oops there goes gravity) The emergency is over and the world goes on. Covid is manageable now and should be treated like a normal illness. It’s here to stay. But the deletion of the LOA to facilitate a TA was a concession, even if I understand why it was done.

Agreed. It didn't bother me. It's just contrary to what they said.

Scoop 03-05-2023 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 3602402)
I agree, it was a concession. It was disappointing they said no concessions and this flatly stared the pilot group in the face.

That being said, it’s time to snap back to reality. (Oops there goes gravity) The emergency is over and the world goes on. Covid is manageable now and should be treated like a normal illness. It’s here to stay. But the deletion of the LOA to facilitate a TA was a concession, even if I understand why it was done.


A concession - maybe? I guess if anyone thought "Covid World" would last forever. I assumed it was a temporary measure and so I do not see it as a "concession" at all, perhaps more like the ending of a good deal. I suppose if you wanted to get technical you could review the exact verbiage of the LOA since I am pretty sure it was not contractual.

Anyhow - like you said - time to snap back to reality.

Scoop

crewdawg 03-05-2023 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3601723)
Dave Ramsey's advice is mainly for the financial illiterate or those that have a spending problem. Those who have high income and good knowledge on different investment strategies can use Debt as a tool for leverage towards greater gains. So long as one doesn't over leverage.


Agreed. I remember hearing the hype about him, so I gave him a shot. I listened to a book on a cross country road trip and was thinking to myself, this is pretty basic stuff here. His stuff is good for some people, but I'd hope it's not earth shattering stuff for any airline pilot.

hockeypilot44 03-05-2023 01:32 PM

I watched winning time. Jerry Buss couldn’t afford to buy the Lakers. Apparently he leveraged everything he owned and would have lost team if they didn’t win championship in first year. It’s obviously exaggerated, but now I want to buy an NBA team. We can all dream.

Scoop 03-05-2023 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 3602464)
I watched winning time. Jerry Buss couldn’t afford to buy the Lakers. Apparently he leveraged everything he owned and would have lost team if they didn’t win championship in first year. It’s obviously exaggerated, but now I want to buy an NBA team. We can all dream.


Well since you are dreaming - skip the NBA and go NHL. Watch “Slapshot” with Paul Newman to motivate you.

Scoop 😁


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